Any worthwhile 23andme results, other than what relates to the MTHFR gene?

Hi Antonio,

I know I'm not answering your question because don't have any problems with MTHFR. I thought this may be a good place to add more information (article written by Dr. Jernigan):

The doctors at the Hansa Center are presently working with genetic laboratories to determine if the treatments can be documented scientifically through treatment and repeat analysis of the classical genetic testing methods. The idea is to affect the structure and function of the body's SNPs by targeting know mutations, such as MTHFR, through bioenergetically modifying the signals being transmitted biophotonically from the heart to these genetic switches. Some doctors will say, "All you have to do is treat the whole person, think nice thoughts, take this or that protocol of supplements, just do their version of energy medicine or machine." I guarantee you, none of these holistic approaches have resulted in one change to the actual SNP mutations. Others will say, I am only treating the SNPs and missing the whole person. Hear me now...if a mutation is to be repaired at all it will require a new and fundamental shift in how the entire person is treated.

No one knows yet how long this takes to get the switches to flip, or exactly how to affect the structure and function of the body in a consistent way, since everyone comes with their own unique "software" and their own and family history of traumas, and illness.

The only way to effect the whole of the body is to treat with the idea of correcting everything we can find that has gone wrong from head to toe, from the inside out, and the outside in. That is why our doctors are working fast and furious for at least an hour everyday for two weeks to address and facilitate the restoration of the most optimum structure and function of every possible problem we can find.

What is clear is that if we can document and reproduce ways to flip the right gene switches, the lights will turn on and health will follow, which is good news to all of those people who thought they were just stuck with their condition.

There is hope!

davidjernigan.blogspot.com/2014/12/you-may-not-be-stuck-with-your-genetic.html

Thus the doctors at Hansa are still working on documenting and finding out how to flip the right gene switches... I admit that I do not understand this article totally...

Denise

One thing I found useful is something I already knew but it put it in perspective.

I forget which particular interpreter I ran it through (Livewello or one of the others), but it had a column for each snp that indicated what you should stay away from. Two in particular were of immediate interest. First was alcohol would be bad for me. The other was calcium, weird I know.

So alcoholism runs in my family, I didn't need a genetic test to tell me that. My father and uncle are alcoholics and if he were living now my grandfather would be considered an alcoholic. One of my sisters is too. My little sister and I though are not. She said it perfectly a few weeks ago "we choose" not to drink (alcohol).

I never really even liked the smell of beer and never hard liquor unless it was mixed with something sweet. Once I started on the many meds, it wasn't an option. But I've always loved Coke. Preferred it over Pepsi, but like most people Pepsi will do in a pinch.

A year ago, I was following the "mastocytosis" rabbit hole and the doctor put me on an elimination diet (chicken, white processed rice and salt only - two weeks then one new item every four days as long as on reaction). It never worked, it was too hard. When I did stick to it for a period time, once you add something back in your body reacts to you get the worse reaction that you've ever had. I never succeeded. Partially because life took over and some things would be spoiled by having Mom sick as a dog and others that made me the responsible party and I couldn't take care of myself because I had others to take care of.

I've promised my kids I'd give up soda and been unable to keep that promise. It's especially troubling since I know for a fact that I am highly allergic to a preservative in Coke (Balsam of Peru). I never truly understood how strong my father was when he gave up alcohol cold turkey. No matter what I have been unable to kick it which is odd because I don't like deserts except for ice cream (which thankfully I also unpleasantly allergic to).

I posted a question about it on the forum and it actually showed up in two different places. Pirouette (I think and if I'm wrong I apologize to who missed out on the credit) mentioned that candida feeds on sugar and creates cravings for sugar and bread. She said one reason alcoholics fail to stop drinking is due to an underlying candida infection. Ultimately, unless you get rid of the candida, the sugar craving will always be there.

Alcohol chemically is just a sugar. It's one that acts on the brain more profoundly than soda, but it's still a sugar. So now I have a reason why I can't give up soda. I remember a day not long ago, I was up at 4am and all I could think about how long it would be until Dunkin Donuts. I would buy 2 20oz bottles at a time to limit the amount brought into the house. If that's not an addiction, I don't know what it.

Calcium. That's slightly different. I have extremely low bone density. I'm only 52 and it's been a problem for years. So of course, I was taking calcium supplements. I think everyone here would agree that getting all the nutrients we need is difficult. A little bit ago, a study came out showing that "excess" calcium gets deposited in our arteries to the point that it can block them. My Rheumatologist pointed that out to me, but I had already heard it. I said the issue was that I can't get enough in diet. He didn't agree with me. We often agree to disagree. Then i ran the 23andme results through the interpreter and found the little nugget that calcium was bad for me. No more supplements. My bones will have to wait for a bit until I can get far enough along to add calcium to my diet naturally.

Those are things that I found at a quick glance. Imagine what else might be there. Luckily, I don't have the MTHFR mutation.

Who knows what else they might find in the future? Just those two nuggets made it worthwhile for me.

Hope you have a good day,
Kim

Ul

Absolutely,

There are 100's of genetic mutations that can affect metabolism of proteins, carbs or fats, detox abilities, immunity and more.

However, does anyone know how accurate these genetic tests are?

My test results are terrifying! I love to investigate every crevice of my health, but I can't get through all of the homozygous and heterozygous mutations I have according to the 23andme.

I'd say 23and me is well worth it.

As far as accuracy: It matched some of my previously known health issues and might have possibly saved my life in the future by pointing out a deadly one that actually surfaced last winter that could have been fatal.

I found a Dr that listened, gave me a "conventional" medical gene test based on one 23andme result, and it matched. This was after other Drs blew me off!! So yes, I am now aware of a possible fatal condition non related to lyme that I need to keep an eye on forever.

And no, I am not receiving advertisement $ from 23andme LOL.

Plus I now know I have a boatload of methalation detox issues. Unfortunately, like others, I have spent a decent amount of coin (with experts in this field) trying to fix these and have not succeeded......... yet.

The tough part is there is the sequence in body chemistry that must be followed to fix genes. Starting anywhere will get you nowhere. A green light doesn't mean squat if there is an invisible road block before it.

Traveler said...
Kim, something that may be of particular interest to you because of your low calcium and low bone density is that I had severe osteopenia - which is only to say that I was one step away from being in the "osteoporosis group". This was confirmed by bone scans. I supplemented, but it made no to very little difference. The interesting part is that once I healed from Lyme, months later I had another bone scan done because I was ready to tackle that issue - and had NONE!! My bone scan revealed no more osteopenia, & no osteoporosis either!

The only thing I can figure is that either the infections kept me from being able to absorb the calcium or the Lyme bacteria was using it faster than my body could absorb it!

I hope that you find you have the same results!

Sunfun, I've not read that 23&me is not accurate on any reliable sites - at least not yet. Can you post a link to a site that says this? I'd appreciate it!! TIA.


Antonio, you might find this link helpful:
mthfr.net/dna-testing-and-understanding-your-results/2014/01/01/

The inflammation process that occurs due to Lyme or other chronic infections utilizes Vit. D as a substrate and Vit D gets depleted over time. Calcium absorption is dependent on Vit D. If calcium isn't absorbed properly, you can often become deficient as it will be wasted through the kidneys as we buffer acid.