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Posted 10/5/2015 6:33 PM (GMT 0)
My doctor decided to take me off antibiotics for Bart and Lyme I was on ceftin and bactrim for 4 months and actually improved pretty well in that time he thinks maybe it was time to try and see how I responded to going off them. I am on A-Bart and flucanozol still as well as hydrocortisone for adrenals. The first few days we're ok but yesterday and today have been pretty bad my vision has gone much more blurry then it has been in months and I had to stop working early today because I just feel terrible and run down and pretty bad vision wise. Does anyone have experience like this? Could this be toxins still or is this and active infection flaring up? I kind of feel it was too soon to stop the meds.
Posted 10/5/2015 7:04 PM (GMT 0)
Sounds like a herx from Bartonella to be honest. Maybe the A-Bart is hitting the Bart that the abx couldn't get to. That's not really all that unusual. Try increasing your detoxing quite a bit to see if that lowers your symptoms - if it does, then you are getting to the infection further and are herxing.
Posted 10/5/2015 7:08 PM (GMT 0)
Yes true I have been on a-Bart for a few months but didn't really go over one drop a day now I've up to two drops and this has made me feel this way, just two measly drops. I guess if I continue to worsen even when upping detoxing then I will have to call my doctor I don't want to get back to the point where I'm not working again.
Posted 10/5/2015 9:32 PM (GMT 0)
hey vinny i'm going through the exact same thing as you. been on abx for about 6 months and 2 weeks ago my doctor took me off them and doubled by ABAB and ABART (i definitively have lyme and babesia unsure about bartonella) to 30 drops 2x/day because i'm having yeast overgrowth. after a few days the symptoms got as strong as they were before i started abx. i had a really bad spell yesterday and popped one abx regimen to try and push the buggers down. i'm feeling better today but who knows why!

i know you are on 1-2 drops and i'm on 60 a day which is a big difference but the effects of stopping the abx are the same. my doctor thinks the herbs should be enough hence why he doubled them. in your case sure sounds like you're having herxes.

do you have specific "spike" days during the week you can measure yourself? as they say a day or two isn't a pattern. its important to see if your current symptom pattern matches up at all with the old pattern. for example with me every tuesday i got the babesia flare up. i have to look for that pattern to see if i'm repeating and therefore regressing.
Posted 10/5/2015 10:54 PM (GMT 0)
Yes I do have a history of feeling worse on Mondays I connected that as well. However this was different like you said getting symptoms from before I started abx, I have been doing detox bath or sauna alternating every day as well as alka seltzer, sticking to my Lyme diet, and I drink between 1.5-2 gallons of water each day. Just frustrating when it seems you do everything right and I don't want to take a step backwards!
Posted 10/6/2015 2:27 AM (GMT 0)
one way to look at it vinny if you are herxing from the herbs then that means the buggers are dying off due to it meaning you are closer to lowering and eventually eradicating them. its tough to unwind what's a herx due to attacking the bugs versus their normal lifecycle and them dying off and releasing toxins but in your case it sure sounds like they are reacting to the herbs.

note you also need more than a few days to see what's going on. i personally think you need to give it a month and see if the overall trend during that time is improvement. we can 'jump the gun' so to speak thinking a worse condition after a few days means we're regressing but it may not. unfortunately with these illnesses improvements (or not) should be measured no less than 4-6 weeks at a time. i see my doctor once a month and if things are moving in the right direction we stay with the same protocol for another month, etc. etc.
Posted 10/6/2015 3:38 AM (GMT 0)
Yea I agree Rikky it may be too soon to judge but on the antibiotics it seemed like I was slowly but steadily Improving and I don't want to regress to the point where I can no longer work again. Being that I drive for a living the visual stuff when herxing can prevent me from feeling comfortable enough to drive and on the antibiotics I felt my vision had increased tremendously besides some strange floaters and visual snow, that is mostly what flared in the past few days. I'm just kind of stuck on the fence id gladly wait this out if I didn't have to meet obligations at work, I was out for 5 months and my company held my job for me thankfully and I don't want to test their patience anymore :/
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