No Herx?

Hello! Long time lurker, first time poster. I went misdiagnosed for a year then went on three weeks of Doxy. I had minor Herxing with the abx. I finished the abx three months ago. The migrating joint pain went away but the elbow pain is the gift that keeps on giving. This is where the first symptoms began, at first I thought I had tennis elbow.

I'm currently taking Buhner's core protocol tincture and Zedoria tablets. I can take as much as I want with no Herxing but my elbow pain isn't going away at all. Are there Spirochetes still in there? Is it soft tissue damage that just needs to heal and it takes a long time? Or is my body still reacting to an infection that's not there?

I know I know, these are the million dollar questions. I thought some here might have some insight.

On another note, thank you all for sharing your wisdom. I have found great comfort in this forum

Thank you!! Funny thing, my doctor said "Three weeks of Doxy usually does the trick". Oh how little they know.

I take Zedoria, three tablets three times a day....http://qiherbs.com/zedoaria-tablets.html
And Buhner's liquid LB core protocol by Green Dragon Botanicals, one dropper three times a day.

I've only been taking them for one month.

I was never tested for co-infections. I've been detoxing with loads of green tea, lemon water, and daily hot tubs. One thing I haven't seen mentioned here which has helped a lot is morning smoothies. I use flax seed, milk, Kale, stawberry and banana.

This disease is crazy. One guy I work with took abx and was cured. Another guy can barely move months after abx. I'm somewhere in the middle.

Thanks again for your response!

Welcome kbuzz1!

Girlie gave you a lot of great information.

My signature tells a story of undertreated Lyme....along with coinfections left untreated....until I took things into my own hands after my LLMD released me at 90% healed.

It's quite unlikely that we only get one infection from the salad bowl of infections known as tick saliva.

And, healthy people are walking around with asymptomatic Babesia and Bartonella infections. Even the CDC acknowledges this on their website:

www.cdc.gov/parasites/babesiosis/

"Although many people who are infected with Babesia do not have symptoms, for those who do effective treatment is available."

www.cdc.gov/bartonella/clinicians/index.html

"Most cases of cat scratch disease (CSD) resolve without treatment", although some patients may develop complications from disseminated disease.

Cat scratch disease is the henselae strain of Bartonella which is a common coinfection to Lyme. Actually, researchers and savvy doctors are now saying that Bartonella is so prevalent that Lyme should be considered the coinfection.

If healthy people can have no symptoms of Babesia or Bartonella and still be infected, it's entirely possible that those of us dealing with any of these infections could also be infected with Babesia and/or Bartonella....and not necessarily have any symptoms...or have mild symptoms...or just one symptom (mild or not).

I'm happy to hear that you're not herxing. However, I'd prefer to hear that you're improving. Making small changes that bring you to the level of herxing....and then you backing down to the previous dose....is what can help bring you closer to healing more quickly.

There's a chance you have another infection impeding your healing from Lyme. These bugs form biofilm with each other so it seems to be a good idea to trial herbs that also address Babesia and Bartonella.

Bartonella is infamous for causing pain.

Perhaps you might want to try Buhner's latest Bartonella protocol. And, you also might want to expand your current Lyme protocol to be closer to his latest one.

Both new protocols incorporate helpful supplement suggestions to support the parts of the body under attack as well as herb recommendations for specific symptoms.

I agree these infections are crazy. I have a few other choice words but this is a PG forum ;)

Oh, as a long-time thyroid patient, I caution you about daily intake of kale. Kale can suppress thyroid function. Lyme is famous for doing the same.

kbuzz1 said...
I tried adding tinctures and tablets to the smoothies but no. Oh god, no. It tasted like an old compost bin with sweaty feet and a hint of banana.

I totally relate lol I do shots of my tinctures followed by pomegranate juice and then water ;)