Painful arms, hands, shoulders

Does anyone have this as a persistent (non-migrating) symptom? Symptoms are very symmetrical in both arms. Usually worse at night and better in the morning? This is my main symptom, and is now in both ankles/legs.

Can't seem to use the mouse or write for any extended period of time as the pain gets worse. Pain feels like it's in the tendons and muscles, maybe even bone.

sarahm620 said...
It's definitely a Lyme symptom and for me, it has improved with treatment. I have extensive shoulder and arm pain when not on abx/herbs.

Glad to hear treatment is helping you. Did the pain seem more mechanical? Mine hurt mostly when in use.

sayyadina said...
I've had a similar experience. Though asymmetrical with shoulders, symmetrical with hands and wrists.

Day to day, fish oil and curcumin help. If I run out, it feels like every bone in my hands is broken. Worse with use. Also massaging the affected area with oil. 15 drops each of eucalyptus, lavender, frankincense and chamomile essential oils in 2oz of a carrier oil (jojoba, almond or grape seed oils).

With time, treatment and detox help a lot.

That is quite strange - your pain seems to be mostly in your bones, and I feel as though mine is mostly in my muscles and tendons of my hands and arms. It started in my wrists and slowly and perfectly symmetrically worked its way up into my shoulders, then begun in my ankles.

Seems like it'll be some time before I get treatment (if in fact this is lyme), so I think I'll look into some of those supplements. Thanks sayyadina.

I wonder if it could possibly be due to something taking place in the neck since it is symmetrical. Perhaps heavy metals? microscopic parasites or bacteria or lyme and co infections?

Perhaps massage? with coconut oil? I don't know.

I think it could be due to the nerves. We need research.

Post Edited (trumpet123) : 1/21/2016 3:55:12 PM (GMT-7)

me too.....i work out through it,sauna a few times a week helps.

Lyme is an inflammatory infection, so some supplements like turmeric, ginger, and/or Bromelain will help ease the inflammation some and that should help the pain. You can also try either heat or ice and use which ever helps the most - it seems to change for me.

Ya I got that. It's bartonella in my case. What happens is bartonella causes swelling of the endothelial cells that line the cardiovascular system. And it actually gets somewhat worse when treating, and takes a long time to get better but does very slowly.

Lyme does the migrating pain. Bartonella is more steady and constant, and also more symmetrical in nature, but may be unilateral. ORRR... It could actually be related to the cytokine storm. Are your joints physically swelling? I know that case it is actually lyme that causes actual swelling of the joints, bart doesn't cause swelling of the joints, but can cause pain, stiffness, burning, aching, etc.

Have you been diagnosed with bartonella?

Saiyaex... I'm not really sure how to answer how much I've healed. I'd like to say 95%, I can function fine day to day living and work full time, my energy is back and I sleep like a baby. But I have ramped up my bartonella treatment and right now my body is on fire, especially shins and lower legs, lots of inflammation, my hands were stiff this morning, and my feet were too... also the area around my knees is burning. I am hammering this bart hard with houttuynia, and, sida acuta, and the whole Buhner bart protocol so I have been getting a bit worse lately.

Bartonella is the least reliable test out of all the tick borne diseases... The best testing is Galaxy diagnostics as they specialize in bart testing. When you get further into treatment, the majority of bart will be out of your blood cells... But not out of the epithelial cells that line the cardiovascular system. And this is where all my symptoms are occurring now. Bartonella has been a very stubborn infection for me to get rid of . You don't have to test for bart, bart can be a clinical diagnosis as well.

Are you taking anything for treatment right now?