need some advice very confused rowingmom or mistermike

You're LLMD should be reprimanded for saying that herbs don't work. It's really that simple. I had a 40 yr old Lyme, Bartonella, Babesia, RMSF, Brucellosis, Anaplasma, Ehrlichia and other tick-borne infections and I healed with herbs only because I'm an abx failure. I used abx for a full year and was left many, many times worse off than before I started using them.

This doesn't mean abx doesn't work for many, but to say that herbs don't work is extremely short sighted of your LLMD and completely misleading. They could be missing what might really help a LOT of their patients.

I wasn't going to say anything until after I had gotten back from a trip I have to make next week, but I have been so impressed with the progress that people are making on Buhner's herbs that I intend to use them when I get back because I believe that I have untreated Bart and Babs from when I got reinfected back in 2014. I've watched people heal with Buhner's herbs only for years now, and I surely wouldn't use a protocol that I didn't have FULL confidence in it's ability to heal me, believe me!!

I'm having trouble understanding - did you start all of that last night? The B-12, Chlorophyll, pulsatilla, Vitamin C milk thistle and glutathione? If so, that's what caused your issues - it wasn't any one thing, but the combination of starting all those things. If this is what happened, I would encourage you to stop it all, allow your body to recover for a couple of days and start over- only this time, slowly introduce each of those items one at a time, and no more than one new item every 3 or 4 days to allow your body to get used to it a bit before adding in something new. That will also allow you to find out how you are responding to each item.

Oh good - and keep coming back here to ask questions and let us know how you are doing or if you need some more help!!

And that's just crazy for him to run down an herbalist and then to turn around and tell you to start an herb. Just crazy.

Good for you catchscooter!

The only way you can figure out what is causing insomnia is to start only 1 thing at a time. Several of the supplements you mentioned should only be used in the morning. Especially B12 and ginseng as they can be energising.

We have always used milk thistle at bedtime and it hasn't bothered either K or myself, but your body may be different. K used liposomal glutathione in the morning so I can't say that it caused insomnia. All you can do is experiment.