cd3764- done with LDN? !

I read that here.

I dont remember if you have autoimmune thyroid or not?

If you do have autoimmune antibodies, was dropping LDN an experiment to see if pain is all gone for good after lyme treatment/healing....OR: or was LND clearly not helping?

Still never tried it since it dose mask some pain, I stubbornly want to get to root cause and try everything before I go to LDN- same with my Dr.
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Note: ONe year.....ONE YEAR post ABX and I am starting to see pain improvments and muscle rebuilding/healing. Doing my own physical therapy is now doing something. I think its taking so long because I physicaly put my body though the ringer for 25-30 years (athletic competitions and physical jobs) while I had lyme. Years of past PT appointments / programs did very little for my body tension.

Seems safe to say that new infections will have faster healing.

The last month (Jan 2015) on three ABX's was living he//.

My body was toxic and I was losing ability to move arms/legs. DR pulled all abx for safty reasons.

Toxic liver, shaking, MS like symptoms, rigid, Candida, was bad and scary.

Dead stuff stays in me ..proof: I learned I have deficient liver phase II pathway issues. D-limone helps this. Sam-E did not. With this and autoimmune issues, my body has a lot going on. Not a good body to get lyme. I think these things and similar things are what separate functional lymies from bed ridden lymies. I was functional, barilly, I had no choice. It was function or hire my own hit man. As you can see, I gave up on spelling and backwards spelling . Hop that gest better in time. Not all my online stuff has spell check LOL.

astroman, how does the D-limone help with liver phase II?

You suggested I try it as an alternate to lemon water since I gag on it. I bought some and took it for a while but it caused me to burp up the lemon taste which was almost as bad.

We also discussed what to do about the mess in our 23andme results. I ran it through the MTHFR support site and came up with lots of mutations. Everything except MTHFR and you suggested going to one of the functional medicine people on their site.

I did but she was only interested in selling me her very expensive supplements. She said "I won't even consider treating you until you have all these tests done." complete with haughty voice. The tests were for Leaky Gut (which I already know I have), DD's stool test for candida (which I already know I have), Food Sensitivities test (once you cross off the things I don't eat, I already know I'm sensitive to the rest and don't eat them so they would come up negative anyone) and an Adrenal panel (which I can get through my PCP and insurance will pay). $1500. Sorry I won't consider going to a "doctor" who wants expensive test that won't tell anything new. Oh, and she said it was all my fault because of life-style choices. Outta there.

Sorry to hijack your thread, I really just wanted to know how the D-limone it helps the stage 2 liver detox.

Also did you actually take the LDN and if so did it help your pain? That's my next dr visit, to see if I can get LDN since I am being kicked off my pain meds.

Thanks for the info. Hope you have a better day,
Kim

CD- at least you gave it a try. Erratic/constant need for thyroid med adjustment does not sound like fun to me either. That one other reason I have not tried it yet.

Girlie- I dont seem to have the nerve pain in the form of electric shocks, or consonant burning feel that I did years ago. But, I think my remaining muscle tightness and cramps are partially from nerve impingement- from all the adhesion's and scar tissue which seem to be the result of "sticky muscles", from how years of lyme changes the muscle chemistry, ATP, and nutrient flow ect. My muscles can relax now. If get tight, I can loosen them easier than before.

gkamom- The Jarrow D-limonine back label says it "stimulates the liver phase I and II detoxifying enzyme sytem". I have not looked into how. I do feel less toxic on it and sleep better when I take it. The liver is confusing, and tied directly to overall health. Unfortunately , I have both phase I and II gene mutations as well as high bilirubin (Gibalters syndrome) and its accompanying related gene mutations as well. The Dr joked and mentioned dont become an alcoholic, as I dont have the liver for it- I'd die.
I'm guessing the Drs on the MTHFR support site are ones that attended their seminars. Guess it doesnt gaurentee good character. The doc I see is great. Some LLMDs are nuts too. Its a crap shot. I take d-limonine before bed, minimal citrus burbs. If I take it in the day while moving around, this happened a little for the first half hour. I used to burp acid up to my teeth in my gerd - reflux days, so a little citrus does not bother me, no harm either, it does nothing to you. Now fish burps from fish oil is absolutely discussing, safe but very gross IMO..........LOl........! Lastly, I never tried LDN yet.

Girlie-

Yes- Gilbert's syndrome. (NOT the rock Island in British waters LOL)

Funny you commented on this, because my last bilirubin test a couple months ago, is also normal for the first time.

So I figured the test was wrong
OR:
1) The ABX and/or Diflucan killed stuff that was making high bilirubin.
2) General detoxing corrected the bilirubin
3) Supporting my liver detox with ALA and D-limonine fixed it, since my liver is stronger
4) Somehow my mitochondria vitamins (new for the last 6 months) have a positive effect on it
5) None of the above, and bilirubin just behaves erratically.