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Posted 2/13/2016 1:40 AM (GMT 0)
My son isn't doing well taking tinctures. He's got a strong gag reflex and has thrown it back up. It's causing a lot of stress for both of us. So i had an idea of trying to make jello and put it into a gummy bear (or a tad larger) mold and add his teaspoon of tincture to each gummy and refrigerate. Question is will the heat, cold or jello mix damage herbs? I am hoping this can work because he doesn't really have to chew jello and it slides down easy.

I will contact one of the herbal companies (sage or woodland) if nobody knows.
Posted 2/13/2016 2:55 AM (GMT 0)
Well, I'm no herb guru (LOL!), but I was curious to see what you were asking.

I was talking with another member who was using dry herbs mixed in homemade Jello. I don't know if the alcohol in the Jello would allow it to set.

What about juice? I think Buhner suggests pomegranate juice. Is that something your son would drink? Black cherry would another beneficial juice to use, and with a heavy enough taste to help cover the taste of the tinctures.

Something else you might be able to use is a sugar free Apple sauce. I'm just not too sure if it would cover any flavors very well.
Posted 2/13/2016 3:01 AM (GMT 0)
Now I'm not saying this is the healthiest option, etc...but just throwing the idea out. Desperate times call for desperate measures........

A real strong, chocolate-y pudding might do the trick. Not only is the taste good and overpowers the ick of herbs, it blends well when mixing things in AND goes down so smooth. Plus the dark color would help mask (psychologically) the having to look at the herbs in it as well.

Just a thought!
Posted 2/13/2016 3:33 AM (GMT 0)
I think ursamajor68 has a great idea. I don't think the chocolate pudding is a bad idea at all.

I just hope it can mask the taste. It has to be something pretty darn strong to mask that taste for a child. They are much more sensitive than I am, that's for sure.
Posted 2/13/2016 1:36 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think cooking the herbs in anything is a good idea based upon the preparation instructions I've read for the various forms of herbal medicines.

I don't know if I'd refrigerate herbs in any way, either.

Maybe mixing the tinctures into ready-made chocolate pudding would work. Another possibility might be to switch to powder form and mix that with something.

Admittedly, the tinctures taste gross. I just put all of mine in a shot glass, shoot it down followed by a small glass of water that is followed by 2 oz of (pomegranate) juice. Is this not something he could do?

I see merit in asking Woodland Essence or Sage Woman....or both. They've been quite responsive in answering the questions I've asked via email.

If you do ask them, would you share their response?

Best of luck to you no matter what!
Posted 2/13/2016 2:35 PM (GMT 0)
Not that I'm a guru either, but I don't think either heating or cooling in liquid would be a problem. It would just be another form of extraction - like heating in water and cooling through various temperatures produces a good infusion.

Buhner says the herbs can be taken with food, so I don't think jello would be a problem.

I have had jello shots :-) , so if there is not too much alcohol in the tinctures, it might work; I'm not sure the jello would be palatable though. Other posters are right about either cherry or pomegranate juice; the taste is very powerful.
Posted 2/13/2016 3:30 PM (GMT 0)
I tried pomegranate and it was actually worse than just plain water. It was organic from Whole Foods. I think POM may be better because it seems stronger/sweeter. I will add some of that in with the jello (cut it to 1/2 cup cold water/1/2 cup cold juice) so he can get the benefits of the juice.

This morning he was able to do a tablespoon of water with 1/2 tsp of tincture. It was easier to shoot it down with less water. I still plan on making the jello shot gummy bears though. Any idea on how long they would keep in the fridge? It would be really awesome if I could make them ahead for an entire week.
Posted 2/13/2016 4:28 PM (GMT 0)
Just to mention a few of the problems with chocolate pudding is that you have to make your own. Store bought products are full of sugar, and if you use the sugar free versions, they are full of aspartame, which is a very dangerous chemical. Not something we should be using if we can help it when we are trying our best to heal our bodies.

I"m really glad to hear that less water actually worked!! Good for your son!!

I've read that jello shots only last 3 - 4 days in the fridge though - and you can't freeze jello. Now that's regular jello shots, but I would think it would be the same. I've never tried it though. If you do this, let us know how it goes!!!
Posted 2/13/2016 4:42 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks everyone for info! For now I will only do a 3-day batch. If it works and doesn't taste too bad it could be helpful for very little kids (or maybe a big kid like my husband (-:).
Posted 2/14/2016 8:49 PM (GMT 0)
I also don't like the taste of the tinctures so I bought empty gelatin capsules. They hold about 1 ml per capsule (size 00 I believe) so I take multiple capsules. The alcohol will dissolve them eventually but you have a few minutes to swallow them. This way the only taste is if you burp afterwards :)
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