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Posted 2/29/2016 4:11 PM (GMT 0)
Fellow Bart sufferers, was looking for feedback on those who are having foot pain and what that pain is. What type of ache/numbness/pain/etc and in what parts of your foot (whole foot, toes, arch, heel, etc.) and when, d what frequency, how long. Trying to gain a better understanding now that its gotten me! Thanks!
Posted 2/29/2016 4:14 PM (GMT 0)
Mine felt like I had stepped on glass and that there were slivers of glass on the bottom of my foot. It was only my right foot. I was constantly checking for slivers. Treatment, and it went away.
Posted 2/29/2016 4:20 PM (GMT 0)
With 26 bones and a minimum of seven tendons, feet are very complicated. Add to the fact that its connected to the calf (a source of pain), and it gets really complicated. And then all your wieght is on them too, with not much circulation, feet get beat up badly in anyone.

Do you positivly have Bart?

I've been working on my feet (left more) for a long time, my own physical therapy (a lot) since the proffesionals I've met just dont get it.

I work the tendons, muscles, foot calf, whole leg, have my own small ultra sound too. That said, there better, but not like new LOL
Posted 2/29/2016 4:39 PM (GMT 0)
I had heel pain or arch pain as a herx when I was titrating Bart herbs. At most, it lasted a few minutes but my symptoms have always been mild for the most part (thank goodness).

One of my very first symptoms after I went off doxy ala my PCP (started the day after the tick bite) was a weird, neurological-type feeling in one of my left toes. I'm not sure that was related to Bart.

Some people report plantar fasciitis issues as a result of Bart...
Posted 2/29/2016 4:52 PM (GMT 0)
I had foot issues for a few years before treating for bartonella. Plantar fasciitis for a year or so in my left foot, and then the next summer it moved to my right foot. After that resolved I had pain in the bones across the tops of my feet for a year which made walking painful; however, that may have been due to the orthotics I was given for the fasciitis which are pretty inflexible and which stop just anterior to the instep.

For a full year before I began herbal bartonella treatment my feet would be very painful (arthritis-like) in the morning upon getting out of bed. I had to hobble for 20 minutes or so before I really could get going.

I am now pain free and with no orthotics.
Posted 2/29/2016 4:53 PM (GMT 0)
I do not know if I have bart but am thinking of testing through galaxy (igenex & labcorp were neg). My first symptom was a numb toe. My toes are still sore when I wake up and have come & go pain on top bones (near ankle) in feet. No sole or heal pain.
Posted 2/29/2016 6:50 PM (GMT 0)
Since there are more strains of Bart (and Babs...and Lyme) than tests available, I decided to do what savvy LLMD's do: trial treatment for these infections to gauge response.

A few drops from a small bottle of Houttuynia tincture could be very telling...
Posted 2/29/2016 7:43 PM (GMT 0)
I have varying foot pains. I first felt as though I had a piece of glass in my foot and my ND figured I had Bartonella because of that. Since then, I have had extreme sensitivities to shoes and can only wear good, supportive (read ugly) shoes if I'm doing any walking at all. My toe nails are very sensitive and sore, I have migrating pains and aches in my feet, feel as though I'm walking on broken bones, extremely HOT feet and then lately, itching on the bottoms of my feet so badly that I'm seriously considering purchasing a BBQ grill brush to scratch them! In the mornings I also wake up and can barely walk as my feet, along with other body parts, are so sore I feel as though someone had beaten them with a stick! Stupid Bart!

If I spend too much time on my feet, even in my ugly shoes, I pay for it for days. Lately, I've noticed a purplish tinge to my skin on my feet on and off and it doesn't really have anything to do with anything I can think of.

TORF mud baths and soaking my feet in epsome/hydrogen peroxide really helps. I alternate between the therapies.

I've always had sensitive feet my whole life, so I'm not at all surprised that the Bart settled mainly in my piggies to tell you the truth.

Hope that helps!

Jenny
Posted 2/29/2016 9:05 PM (GMT 0)
thanks for the replies everyone. i've had the calf soreness for a while and i thought it was plantar fasciitis but it's not. i also have pain in the arch of my left foot. nothing on the heel or toes which is good. the feet issues just started up for me the other day as i added biaxin to my rifampin i've been taking for a little over a month. i also have chest, head woosiness and some loss of pigmentation on the bridge and surrounding area of my nose apparently caused by bart as well.

i have sida acuta at home which i'm going to start up which i had left over from treating babs. might add a few others from buhner's protocol but i'm hitting bart right now with 2 abx and don't want to overload my reaction to die off.
Posted 2/29/2016 9:16 PM (GMT 0)
"loss of pigmentation from bart........"

Never heard of this being a Bart symptom, but it could be that your infections have started up an autoimmune reaction. Loss of pigmentation is a recognized autoimmune issue called vitaligo. True Vitaligo will not tan.

Most people with this have some autoimmune antibodies, as well as some other autoimmune condition, there are many.
Posted 2/29/2016 10:10 PM (GMT 0)
Back when BART was my dominant infection, it was generally hard to walk on my feet, like all the little feet bones felt like they were going to break under any weight... Especially if I'd been off of my feet for a length of time as in after sleeping. Now I have that more rarely. I still have foot pain here and there, mostly when I herx, and it more feels like a big area of pain, like an arch or the top of a foot will feel like there's been some injury to it. I do a lot of yoga, even when my body hurts, feels like physical therapy, like I'm keeping my body from getting rigid.
Posted 2/29/2016 11:20 PM (GMT 0)
"loss of pigmentation from bart........"

actually i screwed this one up very very closely it looks like i have splotches of red and lighter red. from normal view it looks like i have a permanent sunburn. does that sound like a bart symptom? wondering if its that or a reaction to one of the supplements i'm on.
Posted 3/1/2016 12:54 AM (GMT 0)
Every morning when I get out of bed and put my feet on the floor, the bottom of my feet feel like I'm stepping on lego pieces, along with burning. By the time I get to the bathroom, it's gone. I swore I thought I had Bart, but my LLND thinks I have Babesia since, according to her, Bart tends to last most of the day. I wish I could figure out what I have.
Posted 3/1/2016 1:18 AM (GMT 0)
>>I swore I thought I had Bart, but my LLND thinks I have Babesia since, according to her, Bart tends to last most of the day.

That's interesting I've never heard that. I have heard that Babs tends to flare up in the early afternoon onwards. That happened to me for a long time and assumed Babs. Don't understand Bart all that well but I do know it has a very similar lifecycle as Babs (4-7 days approx).

One way to find out as cd3764 said above is "trial treatment for these infections to gauge response."
Posted 3/1/2016 11:41 PM (GMT 0)
I had a positive Igenex Bart in December, 2014 but didn't develop the foot pain until 6 months later. My LLMD is an expert in Bart (even more so than Lyme) and explained that Bart is a small vessel disease. Since we put the full weight of our bodies on the soles of our feet we experience pain because the vessels in the feet are damaged. Mine go back and forth between pain and numbness/tingling.
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