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Sandor
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Joined : Feb 2016
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Posted 4/4/2016 6:38 AM (GMT 0)
Simple question but I can't find the answer to this. So my co infection results said I have rocky mountain spotted fever, I had this done from my LLND, then I showed my GP the results and he was like um no you don't have rocky mountain spotted fever, even though I also have CDC positive lyme disease. He really wanted to stop my treatment for lyme at the point and now he wants me to do a canadian test for the co infection in about
4 weeks he wants me to do it. So my question is, is is possible to have a false positive result? I know the reference range was something like 1.64 and under was positive and I was like 1.134 and it said "resent, positive" I don't think it is recent but I believe it is active right now. He doesn't believe it because he said that I don't have the symptoms, or rash for it, or fever etc. I do have the insane pain through my body and fatigue etc I have a lot of the symptoms but he keeps going and saying I don't have it when I have the results right there. So please if anyone knows "can you have a false positive RMSF test?"
Thanks
CD3764
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Posted 4/4/2016 12:32 PM (GMT 0)
I think you need to rely on your LLND's advice and ignore your uneducated GP's comments.
I'm not sure if the following link will be helpful but here it is:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25092818
Chapelle
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Posted 4/4/2016 12:55 PM (GMT 0)
RMSF is much more dangerous than lyme. I would treat it to be safe, bc the consequences of not treating RMSF are much more serious than lyme.
However, the question is - have you treated lyme previously? maybe you have taken antibiotics earlier on and already treated RMSF without realizing it? That would be the only explanation of a false positive - bc I believe the IGG and IGM titers remain elevated in RMSF long after exposure and treatment.
Traveler
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Posted 4/4/2016 1:38 PM (GMT 0)
I had the symptoms of RMSF - without the rash - in 1970, yet in 2008 (38 years later) I tested fully CDC positive for not only Lyme, but RMSF. The only one to believe those results? Yep, my LLMD. Not everyone gets every symptom of ANY infection/disease. Your GP is trying to follow IDSA treatment standards is all - I'm sure they are under great pressure to do so.
The CDC has created 'Lyme Corps', a group of people that go around from doctors office to doctors office, or making phone calls to make sure the doctors know to treat by IDSA standards, which means of course that it will be harder and harder to find doctors that not only will pay attention to our symptoms, but finding (or getting approval for) treatment from a Non-LLMD will be harder to get as well.
If your GP puts up too big a fuss, you will need to find another GP- because obviously any GP that refuses to acknowledge that their patient has an ongoing infection, or harasses them because they seek treatment elsewhere (ever heard of a GP refusing a cancer patient?) is surely more interested in their career than their patients - which is fairly ironic in my way of thinking, since it's the patients that make a doctors career. But running scared is running scared and that's what these doctors are doing. They are afraid to stand up for their patients to get them the treatments they need.
Don't agree to the tests if you haven't - other labs that don't take the care with the testing like Igenex will return a negative or ind results, which will only fuel a CDC pushed doc to deny treatment and further harass their patient.
And don't forget, "recent" only means that your body is making antibodies to that bacteria (again) - it's not a way to determine when the infection was picked up. As I said, I only had symptoms of RMSF in 1970, yet 38 years later I was still fully CDC positive for the infection. There really is a chronic form of RMSF, there's just very little literature on it.
PeteZa
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Posted 4/4/2016 3:33 PM (GMT 0)
Sandor, I am so very sorry. You are put in between 2 doctors and that can be so confusing. You must be torn as to which is right.
You have been given some good information by all above.
I am of the opinion that the person schooled in lyme will give you the correct information.
If you love your GP like I do, this is hard. My GP and I do not talk about
my lyme. It is in my chart, but he knows I have a doctor that is trained specifically in lyme dealing with that. My GP gets everything else.
Sandor
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Joined : Feb 2016
Posts : 47
Posted 4/5/2016 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
Hi thank you all for the responses, where to start.
Thanks cd3764 I found that link interesting.
Chapelle I was technically diagnosed with lyme disease last january and was given a course of 1 month amoxcilin then rifampin then 3 months I had to push for doxycline for 300 roughly a day mg. I have been sick for around 7-8 years now it is honestly like living in a dream world where in my dreams it feels more real then real life if that makes sense. I have not fully awoken in about
5 years now the fatigue and tiredness keeps me from doing almost anything.
Traveler I really like my GP because he listens to me and out of the 5 GP's I have had in Calgary he is by far the best and he is really sympathetic every time I see him. I wanted to keep him because my LLND here in Calgary is not allowed to prescribe the antibiotics I am on which is bicillin LA once a week 2.4ml and clarithromycin 500mg twice a day. My LLND can prescribe if I went to BC 4 hour drive but that becomes a hassle so I asked him please work with me here and he agreed for another month of the antibiotics I don't want to push him. When I was a kid we had this park across the street and we spent majority of our kid lives there I remember this 1 time coming home and was so sick and nausea that I was bed bound for almost 2 weeks throwing up stomach acid (sorry) and so dizzy I could not stand and I wasn't taken to the hospital for it so not sure if I got sick then, I was about
10ish so 19 years ago.
PeteZa thanks, it is stressful and confusing I am afraid it will get to the point where he will just be like ok enough is enough.
Traveler
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Posted 4/5/2016 12:59 AM (GMT 0)
I can certainly understand your situation. I was infected at age 7, diagnosed at age 44, and finally treated successfully at age 47.
I don't know how you feel about
this, so I'm just asking - what about
using herbs so you can be treated closer to home? This would also allow you to avoid the subject of Lyme more often with your GP, which would likely make both of you more comfortable.
Sandor
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Posts : 47
Posted 4/5/2016 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
I have been doing both for the last 2 weeks about
now when I brought in the herbs through the LLND which is where I got the test done.
It was basically me getting the positive through the LLND I am seeing and bringing the results to my GP for help.
Since I have started the herbs I have noticed a huge reduction in the pain I have felt just got a crazy headache about
an hour ago but aside from that ya good.
I am on like grapefruit extract, lumbrokinase, tads, active probiotic, regular probiotic, broccoli glutathione, cats claw, magnesium malate, d3's, and q10's.
Lyme brain had to run up and down the stairs 3 times to write that down ha I kept forgetting.
Traveler
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Posted 4/5/2016 1:31 PM (GMT 0)
Oh ow! I hate stairs! Fortunately, my herbs and pills are all on the same floor!
Give the herbs more time to work, as they do seem to take a little bit longer to help for many people. Also, you aren't on any "killing" herbs, so you may want to consider a full herbal protocol added to your abx - some find that they do really well when taking both.
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