Important lyme/candida info

Hello lymies,

I wanted to share a couple links that I think are very relevant to healing process of lyme.

These links are two stories that sound very familiar to mine and therefore I believe many other lymies.

What my story and these story have in common is the fact that it started out as lyme. Then there was a confusing transition period. This is a period where it seems like the lyme is almost all gone but there's some lingering symptoms. It's confusing because it's hard to tell between symptoms of lyme and invasive candida because they create a lot of the same detoxing/inflammation symptoms.

Symptoms that overlap can be:

1. Fatigue
2. Head fog
3. Dizziness
4. Aches and pains
5. Rashes
6. Bumps/legions
7. Digestive issues
8. Blurry vision
9. Floaters
10. Muscle twitching/tingling/numbness

But like these stories one knows something is different that it's not the lyme. Then the itchy crawly stingy skin sensation starts happening. That is a fungal infection. The fungal spores coming out of the skin is invasive candida. The immune suppression of lyme coupled with long term antibiotics is the blueprint to get invasive candida.

My point of the post is for those of you that feel like they have been on the cusp of beating lyme but a few lingering symptoms persist and it seems you can't get over the last little hump, this very well could be why. You may very well have kicked lyme but now have an invasive candida issue. And the approach to healing must change.

http://www.drfranklipman.com/a-patient-shares-her-story-of-overcoming-candida/

I have to re-find the second link.

This is what happened to me - have you read my Candida threads? I suggested the same thing - for people to re-evaluate whether their remaining symptoms are indeed lyme, or possibly Candida.

I agree - where exactly do you stand now with symptoms? are you treating candida at the moment? i have been treating candida since December - and at this point I have only 1 symptom, and that is tingling at the bottom of my feel upon waking up in the morning. Lasts less than a minute. And that's it!! I feel so close to saying I am 100%!! I am going full force once again on the anti-candida diet for the next 4 weeks (no cheating whatsoever), then I am going in for magnetic therapy (a treatment method that is supposed to get rid of more toxins), then I do another 4 weeks of cheat free diet, and then I am going to get my bloodwork and candida tests done - right before the summer. All the while I am taking vitamins, fish oil, and alternating Candida herbs, I am on ADP oil of oregano at the moment.

daisies - how did you treat systemic candida? i know you posted about this somewhere, but I can't remember. thanks!

I'm doing the strict candida diet, proboitics, great lakes gelatin and anti fungals (both rx and natural supp). Also incorporated a lot of coconut to diet and topically.

I don't think there's much more one person can do, so I'm just going to stick with it for the long haul and be patient.

Candida....followed Paleo,lots of garlic on a couple meals per day.....get the digestion moving well....supplements like slippery elm and marshmellow work well.....glutamine to heal the gut.

COCONUT milk,water,even flour in the green smoothies.

r

reminder said...
Candida....followed Paleo,lots of garlic on a couple meals per day.....get the digestion moving well....supplements like slippery elm and marshmellow work well.....glutamine to heal the gut.

COCONUT milk,water,even flour in the green smoothies.

r

Ah yes glutamine, I forgot to mention I'm taking that everyday too.

I've only been on the complete full regiment for like a week and half now.

Question, how do you get a diagnoses of Candida?! I read a post, and can't find it now, and I 99% positive I have it. Have always had it. Bloating that NEVER goes away no matter how much I change my diet, cut out sugar, dairy, gluten, soy and carbs, and all meats except for chicken and fish, and still have the bloating (since childhood, diagnosed with IBS in my teen years).

I've read that having an anti-fungal is very important, but have no idea who would prescribe it and my PCP is way too conventional. I doubt he would even know what Candida is. I do have a GI, for 10 years, and he never even mentioned Candida, just put me on an antacid for the past 10 years and said to stop eating gluten.....

Are anti-fungals as dangerous to the gut as antibiotics?

I've noticed that about 5-7 days after I started taking Olive Leaf Extract that the tops of me feet were itchy, now it's my legs, my arms. I have these tiny acne looking bumps on my thighs, upper arms and my scalp (but not the face, just around my hair line). I have "skin flakes", but not dry skin, around my eyebrows, nose, mouth and chin area. Not to mention all the typical other symptoms, GI issues, food sensitivities, chemical sensitivities, brain fog, muscle pain, dizziness, muscle twitches and tremors, and a ton of eye floaters (plus many other things...sigh)

I also have those pinprickly sensations on the bottoms of my feet for about a minute after I wake up, or if I sit down for 10 minutes after waking up and then stand up it happens again. I never knew that could be Candida related, and the LLMD never mentioned it (though I don't jive very well with the LLMD, and don't have full confidence in him)

I also have found over 100 tiny pinprick red spots all over my body, but they are not raised and are not itchy (thinking it may be bartonella as my LLMD thinks I have that, as well as Lyme).

As I haven't really started treating Lyme, I would very much like to treat the Candida first to boost my immune system, and hopefully broaden my food choices at the same time!

I also forgot to answer your question - antifungals are not dangerous to the gut like antibiotics, but diflucan, for example, can be toxic to the liver, so you do need to be careful.

have you been takiing probiotics on a regular basis?

I am taking Metagenix UltraFlora, 15 billion a pill 1x/d for Leaky Gut. But I never take antibiotics, so I know the Leaky Gut isn't caused by that (GI also never thought of Leaky Gut)

Also on L-glutamine 500 mg 3x/d, selenomethionine 200 mg 1x/d, L-tyrosine 500 mg 2x/d and Olive Leaf 500 mg 2x/d. All for LG and pineal gland.

On the probiotics for abut 7-8 weeks now.

I've had Lyme and/or Bart, Babs for likely 10 years now. The terrible flare up started last year, reduced in April/May. Since I could only drink chicken broth for months, I absolutely had to treat the gut first.

Didn't want to end up back in the hospital for the 4th time this year! Also why I don't want to use antibiotics right now, struggling to gain weight. When I do gain some, I lose it, so it's been hard in that area.

I can function some days, which is better than 2 months ago when I thought I would starve to death :(

When you treated the Candida, did you ever get those tiny red pin pick spots on your body anywhere? It started about a week after I started the OLE, it's been about 2 1/2 weeks and my body is covered in them!! Not itchy or bumpy like my other spots, and they are everywhere!!!

Dcarte3, thank you. There are so many symptoms I have and for the most part I am trying to do this alone! I have an appt with a naturopath in CT, but not until July.

I do not like the LLLMD I saw in MA in May, and the other one I see in MA is going to be another $500, plus antibiotics not covered by insurance. So anything I can do to boost my body first is what I'm gonna do.

I am seeing an allergist in 2 weeks, so I will ask if they can test me for candida reaction, thanks Chapelle!