According to CDC: deer don't carry Bb

I can't remember which thread it was but there was a discussion about contracting lyme from deer meat -

"Interestingly, deer do not transmit the disease, but an abundant deer population influences the abundance of deer ticks, as do the bacteria-carrying hosts like white-footed mice.

Also, the female ticks don't pass on Bb to eggs. She may deposit up to 3000 eggs in Late May/early June (OMG) but it's the larvae and nymphs that grow to feed on birds, mice, chipmunks, dog, cat, and other rodents, and they contract the lyme through those animal carriers.

www.freepressonline.com/Content/Features/Christine-Parrish-Archives/Article/How-Lyme-Disease-Spreads/52/776/45118#sthash.BJPUIET6.dpuf

-p

And, yet another piece of misinformation about how long it takes to transit the infection.

In his new Lyme book Buhner writes that transmission can happen in as little as 10 minutes. And, here's a link to a study that confirms this:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4278789/

I am typing up an email now to the author of the article P linked to set the facts straight - thanks for sharing, P!

Deer might not transmit the disease but is it possible their meat is infected?

Ill have to read that link when I get home. I dont ever remember getting bit, but months before all my symptoms started I did cut through my glove while field dressing a deer. As said, everyone tells me its impossible to transmit in this fashion. But when you ask the question(s) about deer and Lyme or cos, all I bear is deer dont get it. But how about carrier? Their immune system may not allow them to get sick, but that doesnt mean it cannot be transmitted that way. I am a firm believer in that is how I was exposed.

Vets and Taxidermists often get infected with Lyme and Co's.

Deer might not *transmit* Lyme but it certainly sounds like they can be infected.

Georgia Hunter said...
Trader, I personally wouldn't be concerned with transmission in the fashion you described. If you hunt, you are exposed to ticks. The one that gave me Lyme was so small I couldn't see it. It wasn't the usual tick we pull off our pants after a walk in the woods.

You could be right. Sorry if I feel I cant discount it though. I mean, if theyre finding sexual transmission, why is it so far fetched that deer to human blood transmission would be impossible. I honestly believe there are more ways its transmitted that we dont know about. I understand some are so small that we wouldnt be able to detect being bit, but in combination of no rash, I believeI have to think outside the box here. I will not say I wasnt bit, only not remembering being bit.

I think, for the benefit of all, it would do us all good to open our minds and with proper funding research these issues more. But thats a dream that I dont think will ever happen. Lymes getting more attention, but the politics are holding us back.

"Lyme Disease and White-tailed Deer...............The relationship between deer and the disease is complex. Deer show no symptoms of the disease. Deer may carry small numbers of the spirochete that causes Lyme disease but they are dead-end hosts for the bacterium. Deer cannot infect another animal directly and no deer hunter has acquired the disease from dressing out a deer. Infected ticks that drop from deer present little risk to humans or other animals since the ticks are now at the end of their life cycle and will not feed again. There is no evidence that humans can become infected by eating venison from an infected deer. In addition, the Lyme organism is killed by the high temperatures that would be reached when venison is cooked or smoked. Deer supply the tick that transmits the bacterium with a place to mate and provides a blood meal for the female tick prior to production of eggs. Research shows that reducing the deer population in an affected area to a level of 8 - 12 deer per square mile virtually eliminates ticks and Lyme Disease in humans."

/www.michigan.gov/emergingdiseases/0,4579,7-186-25890_26140-75872--,00.html

More:

"Meanwhile, deer observations — though high — were stable or declining in Wisconsin. In fact, deer densities in areas with the most Lyme disease cases didn't change much the past decade. That's likely because deer tend to quickly flush Lyme-causing bacteria from their system, unlike hosts such as white-footed mice, which can't clear it. In fact, a 2008 study found 80 to 90 percent of Lyme-infected ticks picked up the bacteria from shrews, the Eastern chipmunk and white-footed deermouse."

www.caryinstitute.org/newsroom/study-questions-link-between-increases-lyme-disease-and-deer

Post Edited (astroman) : 5/1/2016 9:22:23 PM (GMT-6)

Thanks for sharing such great information, astroman!

Ironically, Buhner writes in his new Lyme book that most of us are infected by partially-fed ticks...