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Bands 41 and 58 (plus cdc criteria note; what does it mean)

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Posted 6/15/2016 8:48 PM (GMT 0)
41 KD (IGM) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

As per CDC criteria, a Lyme disease IgG Immunoblot must
show reactivity to at least 5 of 10 specific borrelial
proteins to be considered positive; similarly, a
positive Lyme disease IgM immunoblot requires
reactivity to 2 of 3 specific borrelial proteins.
Although considered negative, IgG reactivity to fewer
specific borrelial proteins or IgM reactivity to only
1 protein may indicate recent B. burgdorferi infection
and warrant testing of a later sample. A positive IgM
but negative IgG result obtained more than a month
after onset of symptoms likely represents a false-
positive IgM result rather than acute Lyme disease.
In rare instances, Lyme disease immunoblot reactivity
may represent antibodies induced by exposure to other
spirochetes.
39 KD (IGM) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

93 KD (IGG) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

23 KD (IGM) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

66 KD (IGG) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

45 KD (IGG) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

58 KD (IGG) BAND
REACTIVE

41 KD (IGG) BAND
REACTIVE

39 KD (IGG) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

30 KD (IGG) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

28 KD (IGG) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

18 KD (IGG) BAND
NON-REACTIVE

23 KD (IGG) BAND
NON-REACTIVE
Posted 6/15/2016 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
Band 58 is thought to be from Borrelia Afzelii - a European strain of Lyme.

You posted that band 41 was non-reactive, but since you asked about it.....

Band 41 (whether in IgM or IgG) are indicative of the tail of the bacteria, which can cross react with other Spirochetal bacteria such as Relapsing Fever, Pintas and Yaws, and Syphilis.
Posted 6/15/2016 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
band 41 IGG is reactive. My doctor said that most people are reactive to band 41 and it does not automatically indicate lyme.
Posted 6/15/2016 9:31 PM (GMT 0)
Exactly - it could indicate another infection. If you have Lyme symptoms though, that is what the doctor is supposed to be going by, not the test results. Even the CDC says this much:
"Lyme disease is diagnosed based on symptoms, physical findings (e.g., rash), and the possibility of exposure to infected ticks. Laboratory testing is helpful if used correctly and performed with validated methods."
www.cdc.gov/lyme/

And this article was recently brought to my attention (thanks P!) : georgialymedisease.org/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/ws_-Volkman_1_comments_IDSA_guidelines.100215315.pdf

(note - this is a pdf) The first few pages go into detail about why the testing is so messed up and why it's so inaccurate for so many.
Posted 6/15/2016 9:37 PM (GMT 0)
Yes he's definitely going by sumptoms. It's just so darn hard to nail down these co-infections (except for EBV). I want to buy every herb (which isnt prudent), to get to better health. So I'm definitely gling to test for HHV6 (even though that was muscle tested) and mycoplasma. The others babesia in particular Ill just continue with the protocol since that's a real iffy one for testing. Though i do remember soneone saying that perhaps Fry labs was good at babesia.
Posted 6/15/2016 11:43 PM (GMT 0)
As frustrating and maddening as it can be to do this by symptoms, it's really the most accurate way to know. Some just plan on treating everything, then treating slowly and watching for signs of either a herx or improvement in their symptoms to know if they are treating an infection they have. The thing is, that you may have to trial the treatment a few times to be sure, as for some of us, it's the infection with the highest bacterial load that presents with the most symptoms so that we know what's working and what's not.
Posted 6/16/2016 12:19 AM (GMT 0)
Was that test performed by Igenex? Also, how long have you had symptoms and how long have you been treating?
Posted 6/16/2016 1:45 AM (GMT 0)
No that was through labcorp. I started treating in mid March but with cats claw and a few other herbs that I was doing for EBV (thinking that that is was what I was doing with). Late March my doctor added in silver, Biocidin, vitamin a and d (with k), glutathione, turmeric, and maybe a few other items. I still kept my cats claw as part of my regimen. Then I added in external therapies (ozone, HOCATT, MAS mat, UVBI, etc) for about 5 weeks. Just stopped that and may resume ozone once every other week next month sometime. I just want to really get my herb protocol really tight. I have slowly been adding in herbs over the past 3 weeks. In addition to the stuff noted above, I'm taking houttaynia, cryptolepis, Hawthorne, Japanese knotweed, Pinella, burbur, CNS antitox, and that may be everything. I'm low dose 3-4 drops 3x a day on everything except for Pinella, burbur, Hawthorne, cats claw (12 drops, 3x a day). I'm looking at what else I may need to add to this.
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