Cmv vs lyme /bart treatment

Yes, you can do most antivirals and abx simultaneously - as long as it's not too much for your body.

Some with very high levels of any virus may not be able to handle treatment of both the virus and Lyme at the same time, but most do fine with it.

What we need to do is to discover which symptoms are our most debilitating and treat whatever is causing those symptoms first, as they are the most severe and usually from the most severe infection we have.

Thank you.

I have a terrible terrifying fear at the prospect of either antivirals and/or abx. I was poisoned by Levaquin (taken for something else) about 4 years ago which is what caused lyme and co's to apparently become active. I have been sick ever since. I have tried practically everything out there EXCEPT for abx.....

Now with the recent dx of CMV thrown into the mix (and because I am getting worse....) I am CONSIDERING both antivirals and/or abx either at the same time or one and then the other.

I was told the CMV can cause brain cancer which has now scared me on a whole new level.

I am terrified the antivirals will have some weird side effects. I am terrified the abx will destroy my gut.

btw my biggest/worst symptoms are severe anxiety and severe panic attacks (daily)...probably not surprising to hear! The other biggest symptom is tachycardia/low bp...so scared these will all get worse and I'll be somewhere in public (like the subway...)

I need some reassurance here...clearly I have some major lyme PTSD going on!!

Thank you both so much...I really need the support. I wish I had more support in the "real" world. If anyone lives in/near NYC please pm me.

If you are afraid of pharmaceutical antivirals, maybe you can start with herbals, to see how your body reacts

Actually, herbals are more than strong enough to not only tackle these highly complex infections, but the viral infections that often accompany them - but please don't see this as pushing you to use herbals, just want to be sure you understand that you have choices.

I've treated everything I have had with herbs/supplements only, as the pharmaceuticals don't work well for me.

I'm so sorry, Cherylfelice, I didn't realize that you have been using herbals that long. You're right though, without someone with a comprehensive working knowledge of the herbs, they may not be that beneficial. Have you tried contacting one of Buhner's associates? Just curious, not trying to talk you out of any treatments!!

And I understand about it being covered by insurance - it would be nice to have insurance coverage for herbs and supplements one day too, but I"m not holding my breath for that!

Yes, I did use abx - it was the first thing I tried for treatments, but they failed me.

Everyone has to find whatever works for them as an individual.

Because I was seeing a LLMD before it was known how important detoxing and supporting the rest of the body function were, I wasn't doing those things - and I'm positive that not doing those things is what lead to the incredible failure of abx treatment for me. I don't blame the LLMD I was seeing, as no one was detoxing and supporting the body back then like I needed.

I can't be sure that I would have made it through any type of treatments without having heavy amounts of detoxing daily as well as a ton of support for my body. For me, that meant I had to go to an alternative medicine practitioner - a Master Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor, not an MD.

Now, many (but not all!!!) of our LLMD's understand that detoxing and body system support is required for many Lyme patients, so I believe that abx treatment has evolved in a good way. No telling how I would have fared had I been using a doctor that understood these things - although I have to admit after reading as much as I have about abx use to heal these infections, I'm not impressed - and is why so many do a lot better on a combination treatment, where alternative medicine and abx are used. Not all Lyme patients require both, especially if they get treatment within that one month window when the infections are caught early.

So, yes, I got incredibly worse with abx treatments - but key factors to my healing were not being addressed.