Advice on further treatment

Hi all,

Previous thread: https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3272410&p=1

Diagnosed with lyme, bart, babs in april 2012. 8 months of abx (Azithromycin 500mg, Artemesin 600mg, Minocycline 100mg, Rifampicin 300mg) and Malarone only 2 months. Had a lot of progress from this. Also herbs (Samento and Banderol) for another 6 - 8 months I think. Finished summer 2014.

Just recently started homeopathy treatment. Not sure if it works yet, but only a couple of days after my 2nd treatment i started reckognising symptoms from early 2007 (pains in upper body at night) and also crawling sensations and extreme fingerpains. Not sure what to think yet. Anybody in here had success with this kind of treatment? Think it's called Biophoton Therapy (Chiren).

I'm quite sure I still have lyme, not so sure about bart and babs. Can't afford another round of abx or testing.

What I have is teasel root, samento and banderol. Can also get cat's claw (read from buhner that this is supposed to be better than Samento?) and Houttuynia. Lot of the herbs that Buhner recommends is difficult to get into my country:-(

So with the combo of teasel root, samento and banderol - is this something to consider? I know that teasel is supposed to be good for arthritis pain, but maybe it doesn't kill?

I also have Oil of thyme, oregano, neem leaf (capsules), green tea extract, artemesia annua and colloidal silver.
Will any of this do to kill of lyme bacteria?

Also been hypothyroid for 5 years, just started treatment for this too, and I think also many symptoms is related to that as I know it can be a lot of similar symptoms.

Last question: Any good supplements (teas or whatever) besides chlorella and cilantro for metal detox?

Thanks
Tommy

Whatever herbs you choose to use, you should make sure that it won't interfere with your homeopathic treatments.

With that being said, some of those herbs you mention are in what I use for Lyme: www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3244272 But it only works for a small subset of Lyme patients, so I usually recommend Buhner's to most.

Can you get his new book? 2nd edition of "Healing Lyme"? It goes into great detail about the herbs used, their actions and more. It might be a great help to you in decided what to use and when, as well as what doses to use.

Samento is TOA free Cat's claw. Buhner goes into great detail about the controversy of TOA and POA in cats claw in his 2nd edition Healing Lyme book, but in general he believes (after a great amount of research) that the claims are unfounded, since he found that not only are TOA's not dangerous, but are actually beneficial in healing Lyme.

Is it possible that you could have someone from outside of your country order them for you and then ship them to you? I know that some people use that option.

Buhner says that herxes occur with Teasel, and I've read of others that have herxed when using Teasel as well, so it does have some antimicrobial activity.

Questing, I know that you are/were quite ill from your infections, but in general, single herbs have limited success in treating these infections. As Buhner states, the herbs have a synergistic quality to them - they all work together to "enhance" the power against the bacteria.

Are you to a point where you think you might be able to tolerate more than one herb at a time?

And for breaking up cysts and biofilms, I have grapefruit seed extract. Will this be good? I read some use it with teasel root. But then again I am not sure if teasel kills the bacteria or just draws it out into your bloodstream. I hear different stories..

You might need something in addition to the GSE for biofilms.

I thought GSE was for cysts only....(could be wrong)


For biofilms I use serrapeptase.

RJD76, I'm not Traveler, but I think that one will be fine. It does have grape seed in it also. My personal preference was always tinctures. I liked being about to start out very low with only 1 drop of the herb and very slowly move up.

Capsules are not fun to take apart. It says to take 2 capsules and if I were you, I would only do 1 a day for the first couple of days to see how you react to it.

I started the teasel today, all I have for now. How long before starting a new herb? Are we talking days or weeks?

Has anyone had success with being treated with Young Living Essential Oils?


8 years since being dx and 1 1/2 years in treatment with LLMD and these past several months I do not feel any improvement. I have been reading more about Essential Oils and how they have helped others with their Lyme Disease.

DX with Lyme / Bart Having brain fog, terrible joint pain, leg pain, muscle spasms on a daily basis.

Thanks,

Barb

Barb,

I used essential oils for everything. I have for years. I swear by them. That said, I don't think they will cure lyme. I use lyme suggested essential oils but also did abx and am now using herbs.

HippieChic50 - I should have asked you to start a new thread...as this one doesn't have a title that will show what you're needing information on.

So, start a new thread titled something like: Treatment with Essential Oils.

Yes of course. Sorry - I just posted about them but it was a different post.

I used Gathering everyday. I love it. Most oils shouldn't go directly on skin. I use Gathering, Lavender, Thieves and Brain Power directly on skin. I put one drop of Gathering on neck, one drop of Lavender on each wrist, I put one drop of Thieves on a Q-tip and swab inside each nostril, at night I put one drop of Brain Power on my index finger, rub fingers together and massage on ear lobes (correlates to brain) and rub at base of skull. I make a mixure in a small glass jar: coconut oil base: 4 drops Clove, Frankincense, Thieves, Cinnamon Bark, Oregano. I run on soles of my feet and tops of my feet before bed. If I get a sore throat I put a few drops of peppermint oil in my water and drink it. I use Thieves whenever traveling and haven't gotten sick on planes since. Hope that helps. They are expensive but you only need one drop at a time. They are concentrated and last a long time. I order on Ebay.

For those of you also with hashimoto's and/or hypothyroidism, i just read that some herbs/supplements for lyme (japanese knotweed, curcumin, sida acuta, green tea/egcg) can supress the thyroid further.

Anybody had problems with this?

Thx Girlie, will do!