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I had similar heart issues and addressed them before I did anything else.

Definitely not a doctor - What I did was not what others will tell you do to and I have not heard anyone refute my way. I have contacted Buhner and have not heard back from his office or his assistant. I have called 2 herbalists and they both said "whatever works for you is awesome!!" Anyway, this worked for me.

I did the slow upping of herbs, but I did one at a time to find my maximum on that specific herb before I moved on to the next. This way I did not have to concentrate on Hawthorn was 2 drops, JK was 10 and Motherwort was 6. That flippin math was too hard and then to add in another herb??? Holey smokes, I was going to have a huge spreadsheet.

For your heart I would get it settled first. Hawthorn is what I did and I started with 1 drop, 2 times a day. I got up to my max of 2 droppers and then I started on Motherwort (another heart helper that Buhner recommends_. I did the same thing and got up to 2 droppers full. Did that with Japanese Knotweed also.

I was very familiar with Cat's Claw because I had taken it many times before lyme so I added it in capsule form full strength right off the bat because I knew I had no problem with it.

I did Red Sage and Skullcap next. And about this time I added in a good collagen protector. I got mine from Amazon. Actually I did 2 collagen protectors. My hair and nails grew like crazy!!

Then I did a mushroom combination.

And after months of getting here then I did the big guns of Andrographis. Now on this one, I went very slow.

It took me awhile to do all of this but I healed/remission and hey, it worked for me. So, when I get told that is not the way to do it ..... I just look and say, "but I have no symptoms any longer, how can I be wrong?

Just my opinion and we are not all alike. So maybe I am the unique case? I don't think so. I just had to do it MY way and it worked.

Oh, and in the end I had no idea if I had Babs or Bart so I did Hout and Crypto just to be safe.

I got to quit all my herbs June 27th and I wish everyone else the same result!!!

A huge BUT goes here - I am an excellent detoxer. I am a very organic healthy eater. And I have little stress in my life since I am older and retired with little money worries. I still have menopausal sleep some nights, but hey, we can't have everything.

Good luck and I hope this helps someone.

bdavis - Have you treated Bartonella and babesia?

1000Daisies - maybe you would do better with Stephania? Buhner says it can be used in place of the JK. Just a thought.

Bdavis, I'm sure you've gone through the lists of possibilities already, but just to be sure. Have you been evaluated for mold exposure? Have you had your immune function tested - I forgot the name of the tests, but it was recently discussed on here and I might be able to find that thread if you need. Also, have you been evaluated for MCAD?

Something is stopping you from healing at all. The key is to figure out what that might be.

I simply cannot do JK. And muscle testing confirmed it. However Stephania did muscle test as agreeable and helpful so I am working that back in.

Going slow is good. I think I went fast and was experiencing a mild fatigue. had to stop and start over again to make sure I dose bellow my tolerance.

How do you tell when you've reached your dose on any give herb???