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Posted 11/15/2016 11:13 PM (GMT 0)
Hi all,

I'm really sad right now as I am really finding it difficult to get relief from the brain fog and forgetfulness and spaciness that are my only remaining symptoms of lyme.

I was doing okay until I added in another antibiotic which basically caused me to experience a ton of candida symptoms. I don't know what to do anymore.

I drink lemon water, I take epsom salt baths, I eat gluten-free, I am treating MTHFR, I take molybdenum, I take large doses of vitamin C, I use alka seltzer gold, I sleep enough, I eat as many vegetables as I can. The only thing I can't tolerate is exercise.

I have decreased my antibiotic dosage for a few weeks now, my candida symptoms were relieved last week when I introduced molybdenum & methylfolate. They don't seem to be helping anymore. I'm not overmethylating, I know what it feels like to overmethylate.

I believe I am just suffering from candida die off and my body not being able to get rid of it properly.

I have no idea what else to do. Times like these I want to end it all. I was so happy last week, I knew what it felt like to be normal and I loved it, which is why it makes it all the more painful to return to my normal horrible, melodramatic self this week.

How is it that my symptoms change in a day? Does anyone else have any options they'd like to share with me? I've run out. I'll be sitting here crying by my computer waiting for your responses. :(
Posted 11/15/2016 11:23 PM (GMT 0)
Yes candida will give you brain fog as well as other symptoms. Sometimes, at some point it's not your detoxing that is the issue. Sometimes the die off of lyme and candida is just too much. You can aid your body in detoxing "to a point".

It sounds like you need to tackle candida, not just detox its negative affects.

I notice you didn't mention any probiotics. Probiotics is MUCH needed when you are on long term ABX. And it's needed to defeat candida as well. Are you taking probiotics? And if you are is it a high quality probiotic? High quality meaning is it in food form? The best probiotics are fermented powder mix you can put in a beverage. You have to consume real live microbes, not dead synthetic probiotics made in a lab.
Posted 11/15/2016 11:23 PM (GMT 0)
Oh gosh gabybee, I am so sorry! (((massive hugs))).

let me see what I can find out to try and help, I'm not experienced enough with the MTHFR mutation to be of any help.

Hang in there, this will serve as a bump to get you on the top.
Posted 11/15/2016 11:26 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry you're feeling down. Natural vitD can do wonders. Try getting sunlight during peak ray hours. Also, dry skin brushing. Hope u feel better.
Posted 11/15/2016 11:28 PM (GMT 0)
I found these two suggestions from here back some years ago:

Candida gives off aldehyde (alcohol) when it dies. The mineral Molybdenum is needed to support the detox pathway for aldehydes. You're already doing that. We need to get rid of the dead stuff.


Bentonite clay and psyllium are both used for candida die off.
Also vitamin C is used to support your adrenals and boost your immune system while using a candida detox program.


Have you used either of the two binders suggested?
Posted 11/15/2016 11:35 PM (GMT 0)
Dacarte mentioned probiotics.

Also, in addition - are you taking a binder? If not, you should add it into your detox protocol.
Posted 11/15/2016 11:39 PM (GMT 0)
I take Vitamin D, probiotics, antifungals (which lead me to this point of candida die off)

I haven't been using my activated charcoal so maybe I will reintroduce that and see if it does anything.... it usually doesn't...
Posted 11/15/2016 11:58 PM (GMT 0)

gabybee said...
I take Vitamin D, probiotics, antifungals (which lead me to this point of candida die off)

That's good. When I was battling candida I had bad herxes everyday for a month. I knew it wouldn't last forever and needed to be done, so mind over matter and got through it.

So the fact you are having candida die off and feeling bad is kind of a "good" thing.

I would argue that candida die off is sometimes worse than lyme die off. It was for me anyways.
Posted 11/16/2016 12:08 AM (GMT 0)

gabybee said...
I take Vitamin D, probiotics, antifungals (which lead me to this point of candida die off)

I haven't been using my activated charcoal so maybe I will reintroduce that and see if it does anything.... it usually doesn't...

Bentonite Clay might work better than charcaps. I know in the binder recommendations for candida die off charcaps weren't mentioned. Those are what I use, but I'm not trying to hit candida right now.
Posted 11/16/2016 12:10 AM (GMT 0)

julymorning said...

gabybee said...
I take Vitamin D, probiotics, antifungals (which lead me to this point of candida die off)

I haven't been using my activated charcoal so maybe I will reintroduce that and see if it does anything.... it usually doesn't...

Bentonite Clay might work better than charcaps. I know in the binder recommendations for candida die off charcaps weren't mentioned. Those are what I use, but I'm not trying to hit candida right now.

I didn't know that julymorning!
Posted 11/16/2016 2:51 AM (GMT 0)
Cloerella and citris pectin may be of help ...also de
Posted 11/16/2016 3:39 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie, Bentonite clay in powder form is finer and therefore more surface area than activated charcoal. So it can absorb more, plus it can get deeper into the lining material of the colon better.

I've also read, and I'm not sure if this is correct or not, but it doesn't absorb nutrients like activated charcoal does. I didn't know that some advise against using charcoal caps every day because of that action. I know we advise keeping a clear 2 hour window before and after taking charcoal caps, but maybe that depends on the speed of our bowel function.

I've not come across the actual full absorption function of the clay. I did see on numerous sites that it's also been combined with psyllium husk powder, but that can prove to be too rough for many people.
Posted 11/16/2016 3:54 AM (GMT 0)
Earthing earthing! It helps me after just 20min.
Coconut oil, tobasco sause, lemon juice, cinnamon & garlic helped my Candida.
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