fl1953 cause of morgellons??

interesting article
http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/co-infections/fl1953/

also read what jon wrote about alzheimer's

has anyone ever seen connection in other articles? or know more about this?

Supposedly FL1963 is an agent all on it's own. There are dozens of links about FL1953 or it's new name of Protomyzoa-Rheumatica, but the evidence presented expects the reader to trust the summations to be accurate. There are no cross references.

www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/10050072-fl1953-protomyxzoa-rheumatica

www.personalconsult.com/posts/FL1953.html

Post Edited (julymorning) : 11/25/2016 6:29:12 PM (GMT-7)

I think proto is bablo or toxo mutant ...why is fry the only guy on this ? ...it in my giemsa stains but what is there ...hit like any other protozoa...
spooky has a frequency for it if that worth anything

These are Better Health Guy's notes from an interview with Dr. F. From what I have read, it seems that Morgellons patients have a severely compromised immune system. Anything that boosts the immune system should help. Hope this is what you were looking for Trumpet123!

"Dr. Fry is doing some exciting work on a new biofilm-forming protozoan previously referred to as FL1953 and only recently renamed to Protomyxzoa rheumatica, a highly immunosuppressive microorganism. He refers to it as the premier pathogen.

I recently had the opportunity to attend a lecture by Dr. Stephen Fry MD as part of Dr. Klinghardt's recent "Beyond Lyme" conference. I'm still working on my notes from that event and will post them soon. In the meantime, I just listened to a radio interview from Dr. Fry which can be found here.

Some of the key points from the the radio interview:

FL1953 is a new, unique protozoan organism that is found in people with CFS, Fibromyalgia, Multiple Sclerosis, ALS, and Rheumatoid Arthritis.

People with Morgellon's also have evidence of the organism. In Morgellon's, Dr. Fry talked about this new protozoan possibly suppressing the immune system such that a fungal/mycelial condition then develops leading to the symptoms of Morgellons.

Dr. Fry discussed the use of Tetracyclines, Zithromax, Plaquenil and other options, but more interesting were his other recommendations. One of the future projects his lab is working on is to complete sensitivity testing of various therapies for this new protozoan.

He shared that diet is very important. The protozoan loves lipids (fats) and that lipid restriction via low-fat diets has been a very powerful tool. Lipids and fatty acids also play a role in the formation of biofilms which seem to collapse with lipid restriction.

He discussed the benefits of a whole food, plant-based diet full of bioflavanoids; which themselves act as an antibiotic.

He suggested that many people with chronic illness may struggle with wheat not due to the gluten content but due to the high arginine which the FL1953 protozoan thrives on.

Many of these concepts are still emerging, but it appears that Dr. Fry's protozoan may be an important piece of the puzzle. I recently had blood drawn to test for this organism and biofilms with Dr. Fry's lab and will post a blog about my results on my site when they are available. For information on tests available from Fry Labs, visit their web site."

www.betterhealthguy.com/dr-stephen-fry-on-fl1953

"suppressing the immune system such that a fungal/mycelial condition then develops leading to the symptoms of Morgellons."

Exactly. This is what I have been trying to say in multiple threads. Lyme, long-term ABX, and other immunosuppressive conditions can cause a severe systemic fungal condition, which then can manifest in what is labeled "morgellons".

Mogellons is a group of symptoms not a stand-alone, independent, root-cause disease.

trumpet123 said...
I believe morgellons is a standalone disease in the sense that they call it Morgellons Disease (MD).

If we want to call a group of symptoms a "disease" then, yes it's a "disease" the same way Crohns "Disease" is a "disease" simply because the word "disease" is in the name.

But there's a root cause for Morgellons and Crohns. I'm not a fan of calling a group of symptoms, caused from something else, a "disease", because it causes unfortunate confusion to the person suffering from them. People should know and understand the root causes of their ailments.

It's the same reason why so many people with lyme get misdiagnosed with CFS or Fibro, etc. That's what happens when names are made up for symptoms and not root causes.

Post Edited (dacarte3) : 11/26/2016 9:11:36 PM (GMT-7)

bluelyme said...

Georgia Hunter said...

bluelyme said...
I think proto is bablo or toxo mutant ...why is fry the only guy on this ? ...it in my giemsa stains but what is there ...hit like any other protozoa...
spooky has a frequency for it if that worth anything

It's not a babesia or toxoplasma mutant, it's a separate, unrelated organism. IMO, it shares more genes with malaria than any other Apicomplexan but it's still very different and has genes from nematodes as well. My feelings are that Protomyxzoa Rheumatica exerts its negative effects on humans in a similar manor to the Trypanosoma species. Altering ornithine decarboxylase function through protein mimetics are my thoughts on how it works. My research studies support this theory.

Reducing fat intake has the greatest effect on its replication than anything. You can starve the bug but you starve the body as well. You will not eliminate it using this method but it can lead to better health, especially when other bacteria are involved and those that are very sick have multiple issues with multiple bacteria/pathogens.

One of my experiments was titled "The use of catechins and nathpoquinone derivatives as xenobiotics in the inhibition of plasmodium growth in vivo." It had interesting results but as Trav has said, I'm only one person and you have to be careful what you believe on the internet.

not sure what nathpoquinone is but probably not as tasty as avocados ....your methods and theorys are so much better than my hairball antics..we truley are blessed to have you georgia h(and you cursed for having to be here ) (do you have any microscopy to show us ? (florescent, phase contrast ?)...however this maybe why some have had results with ivermectin and alinia (helminith dna) and also why i did worse on buhners recommendation of arginine supplement with his bart protocol...the apicomplexian in my microscope stains is intercellular ...and looks like both babs however testing for its dna has come back negative as we know is mediocre at best ...does any one have the protocol with goldenthread ?

Juglone is a napthoquinone. The anti-helminths do help but aren't curative. I do have a few pics from the scope and it took about 15 hrs of scope time to find them. How many labs are there that will spend that much time looking for something in your blood? In my pic, there are three pathogens in one pic and all three are attached extracellularly to RBC's.

I can't speak for people with Morgellons, but with me, I don't have the same cause for my issues week in and week out. This week may be a lithium deficiency, next week it may be copper. I may be overloaded with yeast one week and gram negative anaerobes the next. It is very dynamic and one treatment plan will not work. It's fluid and requires constant adjustments. It's like my body is adjusting any way it can and after one group of resources are gone, it shifts to another group to keep functioning in a normal capacity. Like redundant systems (only its components of those systems) coming online when needed.

Thanks georgia , do you have a link to video if this extracelluar organism ?

Girlie -I do remember her saying the low fat diet ...i heard she saw dr MR ...maybe sombody can email or skype him and see his protocols

this is ann corsons pdf ..it show some pics that look intercellular?
protomyxzoa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Protomyxzoa_rheumatica.pdf

bluelyme said...
Thanks georgia , do you have a link to video if this extracelluar organism ?

Girlie -I do remember her saying the low fat diet ...i heard she saw dr MR ...maybe sombody can email or skype him and see his protocols

this is ann corsons pdf ..it show some pics that look intercellular?
protomyxzoa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Protomyxzoa_rheumatica.pdf

No links, but I do have a pic of it on my phone. I can't even decide if they are the root of my problems. I do know that fat intake is critical and I either have to go no fat or eat fat every day. No fat is difficult but yields better health results from a protozoan perspective. Eating fat is fine but eating this way and not eating enough fat one day leads to headaches.