Trepidation with doing LDI?

I'm not one to ask...mine is still sitting in the fridge. (from over a month ago)

I suggest you watch Dr. Ty Vincent's videos (youtube) - He explains it very well.
There's several - he's broken it up into short clips.

It's basically similar to homeopathy...but much, much more diluted.

There is an LDI fb page...but I don't see one specifically for lyme.

maybe take a look.

FWIW, my newer LLND said she has had a few successes with people - has given them their lives back...

I'm not worried about it not working - as long as it's harmless. I just don't like the idea that some Dr. is producing this stuff himself...it's not regulated in anyway.
...at least that's my understanding of it.

I've heard both sides before trying it myself. One interesting piece of information that I heard was that it works best once your pathogen load is reduced. Also one thing to consider is that it can slide you either way (better or worse). When I had my first dose, I did well and felt better for about 7 -10 days (more energy, just overall feeling better), but the next one, I felt worse (lethargic and overall unwell) for about 2 weeks. After that I just stayed there. It's not like it wore off and I felt better (tho that happens for some).

Now here is the other thing. My doctor shared with me an ENORMOUS guidebook that excluded all sorts of things when taking LDI. This came about because I asked him if I could take my herbs. He said that when this was first rolled out, people were against using it because of all of the "things not to do, not to eat, etc." Most doctors don't use that guide. It is grossly restrictive.

I believe that Dr. Vincent restricts his patients from antibiotics during LDI treatments as he wants to know exactly how the patient is feeling just with LDI. Also I believe that when he makes his LDI he uses urine, etc from the patient. Perhaps using specimens from the patient yields better results. Don't know.

All in all, I say go for it.



I think doctor's experience also makes a big difference.

I'm almost back to where I was (I think). Understand that a dose is supposed to last 7 weeks so you can actually be miserable for 7 weeks. And the longer you do it and hit your optimal dose, your good days should be longer.

Just like everything else, it's trial and error. Ughhhhh😊. There are a few that hit optimal shortly after initiating treatment.

I also heard you can herx badly on this for example if the dosage is too high hence all the trial and error. Apparently over the past year they've been able to get to more minute doses to better align with a person's particular situation.

I have mentioned before on here that I have a family member (bulls eye rash untreated) whom is doing LDI with no herbal or antibiotic prior. He did better for awhile and is now doing worse and LDI not seeming to work. So I do believe this is an "end stage" therapy.

Hey there :) I have been on the LDI treatment for Lyme for the last three months. I am heading in today for a booster actually, so I will be happy to give a little insight from the start up of the treatment.

First off, no saliva or urine was mixed for our treatment. That would definitely weird me out a lot.

Second, the first treatment I had was done sublingual (under the tongue) and though there was no taste there was a definite odd feeling that came with it. A light headed feeling is the best I could explain it and with a minute or two of just sitting waiting for the timer to go off the feeling had completely subsided and never returned.

-The first treatment showed a marked change in my levels of fatigue. I was on the strict diet as well as the vitamin regimin my doctor prescribed but nothing that should have allotted for that increase.

-The second treatment was golden for me. We were moving from one house into a temporary house and I was able to help! No recovery days needed, no crash! The only thing that I had as far as a bad experience on that dosage was the day I realized it was wearing off. See, with the LDI you start with a very low dose in effect to try and prevent the terrible herx you have read about. With each dose you increase until you go too far. It's science and unfortunately there's no real way to know that you're getting the optimal benefit until you get too much. Until you get to your high dose you can go in for in between 'booster' shots to kind of stretch out your previous dose with a much smaller dose of the LDI.

-That being said my third dose was upped. For some reason my lyme seems to be elevated this round and I was not doing as well as the last dose. The fatigue was still better, and has never returned to what it was before. The pain though was increased from the last dose. I am heading in today to get the booster to see if it could help.

I return to the Dr in two weeks for my recheck and to evaluate the dosage and begin the supplements and diet restrictions and then I will return the week following for the 4th dose. I am very hopeful and have seen improvements I cannot describe really but I can definitely tell that my body was fighting the dye off this last round. Though not to a full HERX but I was short on my detox without knowing it as my sal***er pool was changed to chlorine with the temperature change and I was unaware of that so I hadn't been using my regular detox procedures so that may have had a lot to do with it also.

I believe I was infected when I was young and according to my test levels the Dr agrees that I have had lyme at least 20 to 25 years. It came to be a serious issue after a severe car wreck about 4 years ago now though. I have been treated with about 50 types of medications from every kind of doctor you can imagine but the Lyme dr did first try a 6 week round of Doxy for me. The doxy worked in the beginning a little but after about 3 weeks I was back to feeling the way I did when we started. With my levels my Dr didn't want to waste any time trying to kill off more of the lyme until my immune system was involved and helping so we switched to the LDI.

During the LDI I take a list of supplements to help the body to heal. The LDI assists the body is producing new T cells as well as introduces the dead lyme with it like a vaccine to help the body realize that it needs to fight it off. You're in essence saying, 'here's the bad guy and here's some extra T cell strength, now go get it!' With the treatment I take: A multivitamin, magnesium, folic acid, trace minerals, an LDA immunity booster, and nystatin which is an antifungal medication. These are all begun the week before the treatment and three weeks after with the exception of the day before, the day of and the day after the injection. We are also to follow a strict diet excluding anything with a yeast presence, so all dairy and any grains for the 4 week period as well.

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