What are gall bladder symptoms? Is it always with pain?

I know a few people here who had theirs removed.

What are the digestive symptoms of this?

And can it be without pain (no gallstones)?

Do certain food groups not digest correctly while others do?

thanks

Because of my symptoms from these infections, I didn't realize that my gall bladder was even having issues, until it was to the point that it had to be removed. Severe, sharp pain was my only clue.

From my reading though, the most common symptoms would be pain, nausea, vomiting, chills or fever. Well, that's only so helpful sine most of that we can get anyway. Light colored stools can/may indicate an issue with the gall bladder as well, since bile is what the gall bladder is all about and what makes our stool a dark color when things are functioning well.

i always had ache underneath right shoulder blade when gallbladder was acting up (on and off over 20 yrs)... finally had it removed 2 yrs back....never any pain directly on it...but if you have a stone blockage, the lack of bile availability will 1)give you a sour stomach when you eat something fatty as well as make you gassy and 2) lighter stool...

didnt have any problems after removal (was eating low carb/keto) UNTIL lyme in last yr...i believe lack of sufficient stomach acid (which happened one day OUT OF THE BLUE, as i went from eating all healthy fats without problems to any fat/protein giving my problems in one day) causes bile production to be lower...i have found myself with the same right shoulder blade ache and light stool occasionally in past month or so

dbwilco- ."i have found myself with the same right shoulder blade ache and light stool occasionally in past month or so"

Kinda confused. Your gall blader was removed, but you still have issues?

The pain comes when the stone is blocking the bile duct. I had them since I was in my early 20's.

They can be hereditary. I think that's why I got mine so early in life, IDK.

The pain starts with gas, yes, but not necessarily. It's very much like a kidney stone feels, but again, depending on the size and where it is......when mine got so bad that I'd go to the e.r., the pain would have me rocking and whimpering until they gave me something for relief.

I don't recall having any pain at all when mine had to come out. I woke up thinking I was having a heart attack, called a girl friend, she called an ambulance (after giving me baby aspirin) and the ambulance to me to the e.r. Tests showed I had a blood clot and they admitted so they could give me blood thinner shots in my tummy every 3 hours. It was while I was in there, a couple of days later, that a doctor came in and told me they needed to take my gall bladder out, it was "mush".

So, I didn't know that it was inflamed, if it was. I need to interject that I didn't get lyme until I was 34-35, and didn't have this surgery until I was 52.

My daughter is now 35 and has been in and out of the e.r. I can't keep count how many times. They told her a few weeks ago it was gall stones, and that she wasn't bad enough to get emergency surgery but to make arrangements with a surgeon, asap. He looks at her cat scans and says he "doesn't think it will help her"....whatever that means. It's a back and forth, everyone contradicting the other thing. Probably because she doesn't have any insurance.

Meanwhile I've seen in person she's feverish as hell, and in incredible pain no matter what she eats. She's been throwing up for over a month now. I thought she got a bug during the summer, swimming.

The pain does radiate up your back from the front. I rate it right up there at a 12 on a 0-10 scale.

If the gallbladder is suspect, get a HIDA scan. See how everythings working, or not.

Have you ruled out SIBO? I was having a horrible pain and the gallbladder region and the doctor was convinced that it was going to need to be taken out but they did a scan and nothing showed. Obvious it was lyme related. My LLMD said I probably had SIBO and put me on a short dose of Xifaxan and I haven't had any pain since.

SIBO- small intestinal bacterial overgrowth

Julymorning.

Pain in my back that severe to make me throw up, yes that pain went away. The pain after surgery was bad for about 24 hrs. I felt great after I healed from surgery. But I do have one vertebrate in my back that will hurt every once in a while, full moon related. this pain is just lyme related and I take turmeric caps and the pain is gone.

Julymorning,

I believe the reason for severe pain following surgery is because of the gas that they fill you up with is in there trying to move and leave. (If it's laproscopic) I think that pain was the worst. The other pain I had was related to having something removed, since they cut through muscle to get to the gall bladder. I had bad vomiting for the first 24 hours after surgery which was bile, from what I've read this is from them moving around the liver which can push bile into the stomach and causes vomiting.

would I have my gall bladder removed again? Absolutely. I can eat anything. I don't have trouble with any foods. Now my mom, she can't eat anything that has sour cream or anything made with lard. Everyone is different.

Thanks everyone for the detailed remarks. Here's what I'm thinking:

Judging from others experience, It seems I prob dont have severe gallbladder issues, since I dont have sharp pains anytime, actually no pain in that area now. The little pain I had on my right rib area this fall has not repeated, and its hard to say what that was.

Food does not make pain either, just abnormal gas/bloating (some food more than others) and a slowed or almost stopped digestion feeling. I do "go" the next morning, but later than my regular usual time. And I used to be VERY "regular" since I always take the same magnesium at night.

My symptoms do seen bacterial connected and its like the digestive tract after the stomach is just REAL slow. I have almost ruled out candida, as I've had that many times and this is a little different, plus all candida test signs are negative and candida killing herbs have zero effect THIS time.

**Upon goggling Dr Axe, I see there is a whole SIBO (small intestine bacterial overgrowth)- bile duct gall stone- liver and bile duct parasite connection.***

Dr Axe mentions the usual talk of regular liver flushing (the Dr Hulda Clarke remedy) which I think flushes the bile duct and connected gall bladder also. Says any parasites or bacterial infections litter the bile duct with active and inactive litter (the inactive "littler" causes stone build up). So the steps are 1) parasite cleanse, then 2) liver/gall/duct cleanse and 3) a two step food program after. It sounds kind of complicated, I'm sure many have some success even if followed not perfectly (but the says you have to do this perfect- yea right, ...no one does).

The Axe artical mentions that gall stones will come out of mostly everyone, but no pain was mentioned. So is kidney stone "passing" the super painful one and not gall stones?

So you might have guessed, Id like to try an easier liver flush.

The first step- Looks like the most common parasite cleanse is black walnut tincture, sounds simple. Think I'll try that soon.

In the meantime I have 2 good probiotics, L-Glutamine CAPSULES (tabs were horse pills!!) and....something new to me- NZ 100% Manuka Honey.

Well this whole deal blows X-mas dinner. Once again the family will be shaking their heads. I dont try to explain things to siblings anymore, as they think I'm studying to be a shammon/ whitchdoctor with all this herbalisim and supplements stuff year after year LOL. One might be convinced I'd be dead without it though.

/draxe.com/gallbladder-diet-natural-treatment/

/draxe.com/gallbladder-flush-2/

Hi Astroman,

I've done the Clark flush quite a few times in the last year. It kinda sucks to do, but it has been effective for me. I've released a lot of stones (with no pain), as well as tons of liver flukes. The worst part for me is that I almost always get nauseated a couple of hours after taking the oil/juice. But since I've started flushing somewhat regularly, it seems that having a congested liver had really hindered my healing.

I'm in a group on fb that follows Andreas Moritz's flush, which involves taking some form of natural malic acid for the preceding week to soften stones before the flush. He also advocates seriously cleansing the colon before and after the flush, too. Taking chanca piedra will also break down stones to make them easier to pass. The group has a lot of good resources in its files, if you're interested in that.

There are a couple of alternatives that have been discussed lately on fb. One is an egg yolk and lime juice flush, which you take several days in a row. I don't recall the details, but you can google it. Several people have reported good results from it. The other is Karen Hurd's bean diet, which is fascinating to me. Basically, she says that you need to get enough soluble fiber throughout each day to keep old, toxic bile from being re-used by your body, and beans are the most nutrient-dense source of soluble fiber. She suggests that this will actually help dissolve gall stones. I'm not sure whether that includes calcified stones, or not. She also has a great explanation about how eating beans regularly will not cause gas (except for maybe in the beginning). Her website is worth checking out: http://www.karenhurd.com/

It seems like it would make sense, but... After a couple times of doing the Clark flush and puking the oil and juice, I wanted to try an "easier" flush, so I tried the flush that Traveler has posted. I drank the stuff on an empty stomach at bedtime, and the next morning, I felt awful. Chills, weakness, diarrhea... I wound up calling in sick that day. I tried it again later, and same thing. I decided that for me, it makes the most sense to do the full flush on weekends. Usually, I do the fat-free diet and fast on a Friday, drink the stuff on a Friday night, and get it all out of my system by Saturday evening.

If you have trouble with epsom salts, some people use magnesium citrate powder instead, same amount. Also, here's another website that I've found helpful: http://www.cleanse-me-healthy.com/natural-liver-cleanse.html

Good luck!

Nosila- is there a web site or maybe forum on this with multiple ways to flush - one thats isnt facebook?

Sounds like a lot of commited prep work, not something one just dives into.

There sure are many one bottle liver/gall flush products on the retail shelves - obviously they look easier to do.

The puking part I would like to avoid at all possibilities- as that can and WILL start GERD up again in some people with weak LES valves.

AM