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Posted 1/16/2017 2:02 AM (GMT 0)
I have been reading through lists of coinfections symptoms but nothing pops out as divinities for me but I suspect them. Igenex tested neg.

And when I read thru posts from this forum it seems as though there are a few things that people consider coinfections symptoms that aren't on the lists. For example: really nervous and twitchy ... Symptoms in the head... Headaches in certain areas....

What I'm asking are there any clues to confection that don't make the standard lists? Any inside advice? I've been infected twice ... Odds are in favor of coinfections....

I guess I'll add some of my questionable symptomssad not all symptoms! Just ones that make me think of babs and Bart ...)

I had drenching night sweats at the begging for four nights ( ten+ years ago - does that count as coinfections sweats or just Lyme?

At one point I had burning hot toes and feet

I noticed an increase of red pinpoint pet his dots on body that are still there.

Horrible month long headaches at begging ... Lots of head and neck pain...
Man unfortunately I could go on and on.....

anks for your knowledge sharing!
Posted 1/16/2017 2:04 AM (GMT 0)
Sweating, red dots, headaches - can be babesia.

But, bart can also cause the sweating....and nervous/twitchy, as well., burning feet pain.


Many of the above can also be lyme, though.

For me, bartonella was clinically diagnosed right away...because of the dominance of nervous system symptoms I had..plus the rib pain and foot pain.
Posted 1/16/2017 2:07 AM (GMT 0)
Oh...
Also:
The vague sense of imbalace that's not vertigoPLUS actusk vertigo several times...

The digestive nausea and the yawning weirdness that seems to go hand in hand that I had for a spell

The morning anxiety and nausea

The recent eye involvement( pain , optical migraines and gooy stuff)
Posted 1/16/2017 2:14 AM (GMT 0)
Thankyou girlie!!!!!!

I am wondering if having four nights of night sweats at the early days then going ten- twelve years time without night sweats would negate that as a symptom of coinfection ... I mean it just crazy... How pronounced does a symptom need to be or to be considered a check in the coinfections box. No need to reply. I guess if you have had a symptom at all it gets checked . Then there's the key words like reoccurring ...
the strangeness and migratory weirdness doesn't help.
Posted 1/16/2017 2:23 AM (GMT 0)
This was both informative and a bit encouraging. I've never tested positive that I know of Babs or Bart. I really don't know if my first llmd (who is now dead) tested me for these. I do know I was tested for erlich and it was negative. I had a few viruses hv6 and CMV big time. I took an antiviral for the CMV and pushed it back.

The 2nd doc in CO (I moved from MI) tested me for cpn. I didn't think that was right until I did the antibiotic protocol and suddenly had a cough in the mornings.

I've been suspicious that cpn never really cleared. So I am now doing the buhner protocol for Lyme and cpn.

I am pretty certain I got Lyme overseas, so since my symptoms are Lyme-ish I haven't wanted to assume I have other stuff too.

Any other big red flags to look for??

I know Bart is like Lyme and hard to test positive. My first doc may not have told me if I were tested for these. He probably assumed I wouldn't know what it was anyway. I Remember seeiing the negative erlich test. I can't remember seeing others.
Posted 1/16/2017 2:41 AM (GMT 0)

Lightlife said...
Oh...
Also:
The vague sense of imbalace that's not vertigoPLUS actusk vertigo several times...

The digestive nausea and the yawning weirdness that seems to go hand in hand that I had for a spell

The morning anxiety and nausea

The recent eye involvement( pain , optical migraines and gooy stuff)

I was off balance for at least a year...couldn't walk a straight line - that could be either Lyme or Bart.
Yawning weirdness - maybe a type of air hunger? (Babs)
Anxiety - Lyme or Bart.

Nausea - I'm not sure which infection(s)

Eye involvement - Lyme or Bart.
Posted 1/16/2017 2:44 AM (GMT 0)
And Bart can cause red dots too red freckles ones. Babs are more like a blood blistet
Posted 1/16/2017 2:44 AM (GMT 0)

Lightlife said...
Thankyou girlie!!!!!!

I am wondering if having four nights of night sweats at the early days then going ten- twelve years time without night sweats would negate that as a symptom of coinfection ... I mean it just crazy... How pronounced does a symptom need to be or to be considered a check in the coinfections box. No need to reply. I guess if you have had a symptom at all it gets checked . Then there's the key words like reoccurring ...
the strangeness and migratory weirdness doesn't help.

No, doesn't negate Babs.

We can even have asymptomatic infections...Dr. Horoeitz talked about this with a patient of his who wasn't getting better...he ended up treating for Babs and she got better.
I think that's way some LLMD's will treat for all three B's.
Sometimes, as we treat one infection, another one comes to the forefront.
Posted 1/16/2017 3:15 AM (GMT 0)
A simple microscope and some giemsa staining can take out all the guess work ..dna connexion is urine pcr ..no doc needed
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