Cowden protocol what was ur trajectory?

Hi Sulamaye,
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5 - 6 weeks is generally when people being to herx on what is an effective protocol for them. Are you detoxing lots? Herxing would be my first guess considering your timeline.

And most definitely there's hope!! As a matter of fact, herxing means it's working for you!! But, you don't want the herxing to continue or to get too bad, as it's harmful for the body. So we advocate for lots and lots of detoxing in order to help control or minimize herxing.

Infrared sauna??? Yes, that is helpful for many - just be sure to not stay in for very long at all, keep it set at lower temps in the beginning and stay very well hydrated while using it.

My docs have always been amazed at how much detoxing I've needed to stay ahead of, or get control of any herxing. LOL! It is what it is, and we do want to keep that herxing controlled.

Well..

Been on cowdens full since the end of December.

I felt OK most of the time until apx 2 weeks ago. I even introduced houtt and enula early with a very slow phase-in. Then all heck broke loose.

My llmd told me to stop and just continue the detox herbs. I did this for four days and tried to start back up at half dosage. Which I did.

Immediately, the fatigue, brain fog, nausea and vomiting returned. I backed off for a week doing only detox herbs.

I've just come from llmd and she said to start again at half dosage.

I'll give it another try. I'm feeling a bit stronger, so I'm going to keep plugging àlong.

In spite of what the protocol calendar says, I'm not going to stay dead set with staying on schedule.

Please keep us posted on your progress and/or email me anytime.,

Post Edited (Purrrsiankitty) : 2/15/2017 1:03:03 PM (GMT-7)

Sounds good to me. Look at it this way, makes the program cheaper😊

Thanks krimpet. Yes my mitochondria function is impaired and I took hydrocortisone for two years as my adrenals were on the floor, but now I am off HC, but surely these are caused by my condition and contribute toward symptoms, not the cause of it? Everything that doesn't function like it used to, such as the fact that I have to use t3 now whereas I was on standard t4 thyroxine before I became ill or methylation problems are all knock on effects of having a body that is being disrupted? The reality is that addressing those things historically has seen mild improvements but has not solved the problem. I can't solve the problem of living in a mouldy house, can't move and despite stopping water getting in the house will take a long time to dry out, we live in a very cool damp country. I do hope you are wrong and this is die off otherwise I'm just back on the same ole merry go round and having worked my way through everything else I am going to have to resign myself to never recovering and stop wasting so much money and hope on treatments. ☹️

I find it amazing that the Cowden dosage schedule simply tells you to take extra burbur Pinella if herxing. Then it says if it is too severe of a herx, to skip the next dose. Nothing about reduction or adjustment. I know these are excellent products, but it you àre too sick to continue, what's the good in that.

I did my 3rd half dose, flat on my back all over again. I'm so discouraged

Hi, cut out the last two doses of microbials from yesterday's cowden and am feeling a little less unstable today so am trying half doses for rest of today. Have just got some loose powder activated charcoal. I have posted a new thread but do either of you know what dose and how to take it when it's in powder form?

Hope you're both doing okay today.

Thanks, sounds like a gramme will do, how often do you take them?

Thanks. I've read to take them away from supplements, medications food etc by two hours. I drink 4 litres of water minimum very day anyway so hopefully won't bunged up.

We definitely have to find the right amount for our body for what we are currently needing - and remember that it changes. Thanks for the clarification, Krimpet.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Purrrsiankitty!!!!
I'm so sorry you are sick for your birthday, but I do hope that you get a chance to celebrate a little bit soon!! You've made it another year! YAY!!

Purrrsiankitty said...

Krimpet 🍔 said...

Purrrsiankitty said...
I find it amazing that the Cowden dosage schedule simply tells you to take extra burbur Pinella if herxing. Then it says if it is too severe of a herx, to skip the next dose. Nothing about reduction or adjustment. I know these are excellent products, but it you àre too sick to continue, what's the good in that.

I did my 3rd half dose, flat on my back all over again. I'm so discouraged

Do you mean 3rd dosage for the day? If so, perhaps just do 1-2 doses a day. I cut back from doing 3, to 2 and my body prefers that much better.

The program calls for 4 doses a day before meals and at bedtime.

I don't think the timing has much do do with anything except it should be taken 30 min before meals.

I don't want to do 1 dose because there are 2 separate sets of drops. I am definitely considering 2 doses daily. Do you guys have an opinion for the timing of the 2 dosages? I guess it really wouldn't matter. Can always adjust later.

I'm not doing very well again, I think since I've done 2 doses today, ill just detox for the rest of the day. Its my birthday and this sux. Last birthday I was on antibiotics. And felt great although there was also allot of Candida partying going on in my gut. Come to think of it, I may had had cake and diet rootbeer. UGH NO WONDER I'M STILL SICK. Better to wake up late than never, I think 😿

Happy Birthday.

For clarification, when I say 2 dosages, I mean 2 dosages of whatever you need to take. I'm doing a much simplified Cowden protocol. So for example, let's say Samento and a Banderol. I mean taking both of these 2x a day, but at a lesser amount than you were taking. If this is still too much then you may have to take 1 of those 2x a day, and work back up.

For some people following this protocol, they had to almost reset when things became too much. So like choosing one of the herbs that make you feel more human. So if this is a Banderol, stick with that for awhile and see how you feel. Sometimes you can't follow the straight protocol. We are all different and may have to make adaptations along the way.

Hopefully you getting to enjoy your birthday.