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Posted 2/25/2017 3:31 PM (GMT 0)
I am looking to try this in my "post lyme" muscle rebuilding. (saying post lyme lightly as I can't be 100% sure).

This is used as a muscle recovery supplement similar to L-Glutamine in the non-lyme world.

Just realized thats its also suggested by Stephan Buner in higher quantities for lyme- I never used it then.

I always google supps for info on immune and or thyroid reactions to - habit, so maybe I'm being overly cautious, but thats me.

Never hurts to ask if others used a supp and their thoughts/reactions to it energy levels / muscle pain reductions ect........or any negatives........

Post Edited (astroman) : 2/25/2017 10:20:14 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/25/2017 3:39 PM (GMT 0)
Hey Astroman,

I am also in post lyme muscle building recovery as well. I take great lakes gelatin because a daily dose has 22g of protein as well as a long list of amino-acids. A large dose of L-arg and glutamatic acid are included. As you know glutamatic acid is what the body uses to make Glutamine (or one of the things at least).

So I take both glutamine and glutamatic acid, giving my body both (cover all my basis).

I think great lakes is great to get a plethora of amino acids (in high dosage) in one supplement.

How is your physical therapy going?

I'm 3.5 months in and see satisfactory improvements overall, however I do feel like I should be a bit further along, but I'm sure what my body went through with lyme makes it bit more difficult.
Posted 2/25/2017 4:05 PM (GMT 0)
I hear about this brand a lot - great lakes gelatin. Another thing to goggle. I do have some naturally occurring high levels of some important amminos (odd, yes) so I need to be carefull of over doing some.

I notice huge improvments in workouts If I do the myofacial release stuff in problem areas BEFORE exercise.

My upper body is still getting stronger without more discomfort. Lower and hips are slower at improvements and a more complicated area- I need breaks to assess healing in them, then inch forward again.

With past injuries this takes a long time, as my body was muscularly unbalanced for years, from not being able to heal with lyme, and lyme related repetitive motion injuries. Over the handlebars too many times didnt help either LOL.
Posted 2/25/2017 5:08 PM (GMT 0)
When my LLND prescribed it, he told me to also take L-Lysine with it...because it can reactive the Herpes virus.

The L-Lysine will keep it at bay. (herpes virus)
Posted 2/25/2017 7:38 PM (GMT 0)
I use protein essentials brand. Used to use Great Lakes.
Posted 2/25/2017 9:04 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
When my LLND prescribed it, he told me to also take L-Lysine with it...because it can reactive the Herpes virus.

The L-Lysine will keep it at bay. (herpes virus)

Great lakes has both, which is why i like it so much.
Posted 2/25/2017 11:09 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
When my LLND prescribed it, he told me to also take L-Lysine with it...because it can reactive the Herpes virus.

The L-Lysine will keep it at bay. (herpes virus)


second that ...
Posted 2/26/2017 12:09 AM (GMT 0)
I found that CD did a post on this subject in 2015:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3497231

It can reactivate EBV too, ........so it must do that to any possible viruses, see below:

Near the end of the post she mentions:........"Arginine: Arginine and lysine share common pathways in the body. High levels of arginine may lower lysine levels in the body."

Since l-lysine is anti-viral...and high levels of arginine may lower lysine levels in the body....this could possibly explain how certain viruses can be reactivated with the use of arginine."

Looks wise to take virus combating L-Lysine with L-Arginine!

This place is an endless information tool!

Post Edited (astroman) : 2/25/2017 5:12:56 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/26/2017 12:12 AM (GMT 0)

astroman said...
I found that CD did a post on this subject in 2015:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3497231

It can reactivate EBV too, ........so it must do that to any possible viruses, see below:

Near the end of the post she mentions:........"Arginine: Arginine and lysine share common pathways in the body. High levels of arginine may lower lysine levels in the body."

Since l-lysine is anti-viral...and high levels of arginine may lower lysine levels in the body....this could possibly explain how certain viruses can be reactivated with the use of arginine."

This place is an endless information tool!

EBV and herpes are the same, right?

EDIT - I thought EBV and herpes are same family....someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted 2/26/2017 12:39 AM (GMT 0)
What? Hu? ...........the same family? Didnt know that.

Guess this can be a test to see if anything virus related is in you !

Think I'll take lysine with in just in case.

Buhner says L-Argine kills babs and bart from Nitric Oxide (from this) in the blood.
Posted 2/26/2017 12:53 AM (GMT 0)

astroman said...
What? Hu? ...........the same family? Didnt know that.

Guess this can be a test to see if anything virus related is in you !

Think I'll take lysine with in just in case.

Buhner says L-Argine kills babs and bart from Nitric Oxide (from this) in the blood.

Maybe not? I was hoping you knew and could confirm lol.
Posted 2/26/2017 1:35 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...

astroman said...
I found that CD did a post on this subject in 2015:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3497231

It can reactivate EBV too, ........so it must do that to any possible viruses, see below:

Near the end of the post she mentions:........"Arginine: Arginine and lysine share common pathways in the body. High levels of arginine may lower lysine levels in the body."

Since l-lysine is anti-viral...and high levels of arginine may lower lysine levels in the body....this could possibly explain how certain viruses can be reactivated with the use of arginine."

This place is an endless information tool!

EBV and herpes are the same, right?

EDIT - I thought EBV and herpes are same family....someone correct me if I'm wrong.

They are in the same family. There are 8 total.

www.medbroadcast.com/channel/infection/herpes/herpes-virus-8-types
Posted 2/26/2017 2:34 AM (GMT 0)
Yes definitely take lysine with the arginine to avoid any "reactivation".

There is debate on these two compounds. Some studies show that they are antagonist of each other. So they will cancel each other out. So that's good if you are not trying to allow arginine to reactive different herpes viruses.

HOWEVER, the down side is because they cancel each other out a person actually doesn't get the health benefits of arginine while also taking lysine simultaneously because they are in fact antagonist.

This is based on some scientific research I have read. I don't know how reliable it is, as far as has it gone through the rigorous steps of the scientific method and repeated over and over.
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