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Posted 5/3/2017 1:38 PM (GMT 0)
After a relatively good two years, my Lyme Disease symptoms have come back heavy after a time of stress.

My LLMD seems unsure but believes Bartonella is causing a lot of problems, which I never treated before and got much better. Whenever I take a zithromax, I feel better as anxiety, tingling in hands and feet (and nose) seem to drop a few levels.

Have also been taking Biccillin shots for a while now, which did the trick first time around, along with collodial silver, enzymes and small amounts of monolaurin.

What has me almost panicked is for the last few days I have had some diarrhea and in the last few nights, I have awakended with a little sweat and mild dizziness. But last night I woke up, and EVERYTHING WENT CRAZY WITH DIZZINESS, HEAVY SWEATING, NECK/HEADACHE AND DIARRHEA. Also thought I was going to vomit.

Right before I went to bed, after taking a zithromax, I told my daughter how much better it made me feel, then WHAM in the middle of the night. Had this years ago. LLMD doesn't seem to want to deal with it.

Totally lost on what to do. Does this seem like something Bartonella would do? Feel like I'm losing my mind. It's gotten so much worse in less than 3 weeks. Your thoughts, ideas, help is appreciated as I am am lost on all this.
Posted 5/3/2017 2:03 PM (GMT 0)
Are you detoxing? I don't know much about any of those meds, but could it be a herx?
Posted 5/3/2017 2:12 PM (GMT 0)
Good thought. I do some detox, but maybe not enough. Some lemon water each day, just started activated charcoal. Dry skin brush, but not enough.

My concern is I had this happen before I even knew I had Lyme Disease, so I wasn't on antibiotics. Just not sure what to treat, but LLMD said with all the anxiety and tingling, it sounds like Bart. Now this happens and seems like Babesia.

Thanks.
Posted 5/3/2017 2:22 PM (GMT 0)
Lyme never really leaves our bodies. Our immune system learns how to keep it under control. Stress is a huge system disruptor that interfere with your body’s ability to heal and fight off stealth microbe infections.

Many other things can contribute as being a system disruptor.

Time to get back to treating in the way that got you well before. Antibiotics can give you an upset intestinal problem. It always does me and it seems to get worse the older I get.

Are you doing all the lyme things? Eating healthy? Taking a probiotic with those antibiotics? You know the drill.
Posted 5/3/2017 2:30 PM (GMT 0)
As the bacteria die, they put out toxins -these toxins do accumulate, so we can have a type of "herx" even before we start treatment, simply because our body has had a build up of toxins. Sometimes this is because we have done something that we were aware would cause die off (basically because we didn't understand what we had), or from other things. Sometimes it's a symptom flare though.

I would say that since you are in treatment, and you don't detox a lot, it was likely a herx though. Do you know if you have any of the gene mutations that make it harder for your body to detox (MTHFR and such)? If so, this will require more strategic detoxing and possibly a few different supplements to help your body make those 'connections' better.

I would first encourage you to increase your detoxing though, as you aren't doing a lot. We do have some great suggestions in our "New to Lyme" thread, and many of us use the suggestions on this page as well:
www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods. Also, we will be happy to discuss any of these more with you!

Also, are you taking probiotics? This will be necessary in order to keep not only fungal/yeast infections at bay, but will make your digestive system happier too. Most of us have to use 'large' amounts, around 50,000 'units' at least once a day. You can find some good information about probiotics in our New to Lyme thread as well.

Which infections did you have the first time around?
Posted 5/3/2017 3:50 PM (GMT 0)
I appreciate your responses more than you'll ever imagine. With the anxiety and depression in play again, it simply magnifies the worry, and I begin doubting again. Thank you.

The anxiety and depression, along with cold hands and tingling, dominated, even tingling in nose. Numb pinky and ring finger on right hand. Headaches were gone for two months until last couple of nights with sweat and dizziness. It was worse last night as I took 500 mg of zithromax twice for first time.

The first time I was only diagnosed with borrelia. And it took a while, but I got back to about 80% and was able to take a job coaching again. To be honest, back then I didn't even know what a con-infection was.

And you are all right about not enough detoxing. Long as I've been in this, I've been weak in that area. When I eat bad, I feel worse and it leads to problems. I preach discipline to runners and then aren't living up to it with Lyme.

Haven't had the MTHFR test. I have been eating much better with little to no sugars, no dairy or wheat in last three weeks.

Trying to figure out how to do all that needs to be done with all this and still function enough to keep my job. The insurance alone makes more treatment possible.

I'm sorry so long. Does Bartonella cause what happened last night with diarrhea, sweating and dizziness, or, as you mentioned, is it more likely to be a herx? I did not have problems like that first two months on zith with Bicillin shots and never on Bicillin alone.

LLMD wants me to start the Bartonella Series, along with monolaurin, which even a little hits me hard.

Finally, the naturopath has me taking the probiotic HLC Mindlux capsules with "12 billion viable cells," whatever that is. But started that consistently in last few weeks.

I just get lost in this and, right now, my brain magnifies everything. You are awesome. And provide answers and hope. I just ask a lot.
Posted 5/3/2017 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
No, you don't ask a lot, you ask what you need to - we all do here!! So no worries. We really do want you to ask whatever questions you need to!

Yes, I get on myself when I'm lacking in detoxing, or supplementing or staying in treatment - that's what I tell others to do!!! ACK! But it helps me get back on track and doing what I need to be doing. Don't waste time beating yourself up, instead, put those energies into getting back to doing what you need to.

Seems you've made some good changes!

On the issues you were posting about specifically (sweats/diarrhea/dizziness), it could be that you have developed yeast or fungal issues, which may be why the monolaurin is a hard hitter for you, especially since you are just now getting probiotics in you consistently. But, it could have been a herx as well - until we find out some more details.

How long have you been back in treatment? Did you start off with full doses?
Posted 5/3/2017 4:44 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for your attitude. As a caoch, I don't look for help but look to give it. And thta is what will also get me back on this site answering other's questions.

Started back on Bicillin and collodial silver around August 1. I had an aortic valve replaced, which really set back the Lyme situation. Was only only on that until a couple of months ago. Then also started different enzymes and monolaurin. First time I took monlaurin, it hit way too hard. Just take a few pellets at a time, now.

My situation may be similar to yours where you re treating Babs and Bart. Hope that is going well and you are feeling better. I think this is Bart as when I take the Zithromax, my head clears for a while and symptoms die down. It's weird.

I see you did naturals, and they worked. Also they had me on Diflucan, but I have been taking enzymes and monolaurin, so I didn't think Diflucan one week a month would help. Maybe too much?

Please let me know how your recent treatment is going. Hoping for you, too.
Posted 5/3/2017 5:31 PM (GMT 0)
I'm hanging in there with it! LOL! Thanks for asking. I'm doing Bart treatments now myself, and still building up my doses of herbs, but am getting symptom relief, so I'm not complaining!

Yep, you described me as well - I have found more answers for myself by trying to help others! Lots of "wow, I didn't realize that's what it's called', or 'wow, it's working for me too!' going on in my house! LOL!

The Diflucan may be enough for many people to keep it all in check - but you still need to take the probiotics to help keep from having serious issues with the yeast/fungal aspect of this. We have a really great, very detailed post at the bottom of page 2 of the New to Lyme thread by Pirouette about Yeast/fungal issues and treatment. She's had a serious issue with them, and has taken the time to post about this, and we are very grateful. I would encourage you to read through it so you are familiar with the possibilities, the symptoms and the treatments.

Best of luck as you move forward with this! Do let us know how you are doing, any questions you may have - and if you can help others (even with just words of encouragement!), please do!!! smile
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