bvt thread

I am petrified of stinging insects...i doubt if I could do it. I think my husband would do it for me ...he'd get a laugh out of it...me squawking...saying "just wait a minute ...not yet....oooohhhh....okay, do it...NO! wait...I'm not ready."


But, I'm thinking of getting some bees for our yard.
My husband commented that there aren't very many bees around. We usually see them on our Rhododendrons..but not this year...just the odd one.

There was a fellow in the 90s who taught people and would go around .the nurse who escaped als has a good practice in the next town .yes girlie we need more bees to pollinate flowers and food especially with mites pollution pesticides and colony collapse .choosing this modality actually helps them proliferate in the long run. A queen bee lays 1000 eggs a day in a healthy hive !
They demonstrate true cooperation and selflessness ,the hive mind collective .
i have been watching the work of the founder charles mraz and pat wagner who helped ms lyme people.

Piro -email me so i can find a practicing apitheripist in your area when you are ready.

...but what if the beeeees find out what I'm up to? Not just the ones that I'm sentencing to death so that I can get back to yoga class and clog dancing, but - their neighbors and cousins and other friends? Won't they be really, really mad?

They only smell phermones of stings for a day or if you eat bananas .i cover up with thieves and the hives leave me bee.

we made contact on lymenut? I will check but i thought we had ...
sent email ...mah bad

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 6/2/2017 6:18:34 PM (GMT-6)

Every mwf religiously! Havent missed a dose in 18 months .the amount of stings varies but its been 12-16 lately with many sets and microstings in trouble spots .anecdotal i had a cold sore put a bee on it gone in a day .had the flu did bees and alinia gone in 2 days ,the weird dark spots on abdomen .put a bee on it and cleared it out ,had a bad burn put honey propolis and encircled with venom and healed in a week..diseased gums returning pink after microstings and propolis.bad headache gone in 20 min with a head sting and peppermint eo ..i love that when most are at a loss i always feel empowered .my teacher says dont worry bout it "just put a bee on it "

Ellie lobels story
/mosaicscience.com/story/how-bee-sting-saved-my-life-poison-medicine

she did 15 years of abx ,and now speaks of babs lyme and arthritis in the past tense

Thanks for sharing bluelyme. CRPS is a brutal condition. I was convinced I had that...so had read a lot about it.

That certainly is less risky than the Ketamine comas that some patients resort to.


So, if I was to consider the BVT - how would I get an epi-pen - to have on hand when I don't have any known allergies.

And, is there a good source here on the West Coast of Canada? (where would I get my bees?)

bluelyme said...

TOOTY said...

Rikky1 said...
would be great if there was an easier way of doing BVT without having to have your own bees and have them sting you over and over again. unfortunately that's a big barrier for most to try this modality.

blue any options out there that may be close to as effective as live bee stings?

You don't have to have your own hives to do this therapy. You can mail-order your bees on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. They are very cheap and the bees come right to your doorstep. It can't get any easier than that. As mono-therapy it's the cheapest, easiest, most effective treatment there is in my opinion. I guess each person has to determine if the risks, which basically amounts to a mental roadblock for most (since most people are NOT truly allergic to bee stings), outweigh the potential of getting well. For me, if this is all I had to do to make progress (unfortunately it seems I need ABX as well), I would consider it a dream protocol! No travelling to expensive doctor's visits, no expensive meds, no natural practitioner trying to sell me on their expensive supplements, no bloodwork......

They ONLY hinderance might be finding someone to administer the stings for you. But, it is very possible to do them yourself. I've done them in a pinch and there are youtube videos of people self-administering them.

what toots said...also there is a injectable venom that need to be mixed with procaine or saline .i had my d.o.m order it for me and have used it in a pinch . The live bees are just hotter ...if dr j doesnt get you where you need you still have options rikky

Or at least during the warmer months, or in warmer climates all year, you could just set out a dish of sugar water. Mix 1/2 sugar and half water stir until it dissolves. Put a little of this mixture in a shallow dish and set out side. Keep the rest in the fridge, should last at least a couple weeks in refrigerator. Wait 10 or 15 minutes and you will have honey bees plus yellow jackets and wasps feeding on your syrup. Use your tweezers to capture the honey bees you need. Many of you probably already have hummingbird feeders that bees visit daily. Or just pick them off of clover in your yard. The bees that you are catching will be forages and are at the end of their lives anyway. Foraging is the last job a honey bee performs before it dies. Young bees are house and nurse bees and remain inside the hive for the most part.

I got my reverse tweezers in the mail today, was tired of getting stung in the finger trying to hold the bees. Started controlled stinging today with only 4 stings because I've felt pretty bad the last two days. Will go to 6 on Friday and 8 or 10 on Monday. I routinely get that many because I'm a beekeeper so I'm not worried about jumping up to 10 so fast just now instead of random clumsy stings they will be placed along the spine. I'm going with blues mwf schedule. My wife enjoyed stinging me a little to much I think, she actually said "this is fun". But at least I know I always have someone willing to do it.

Post Edited (WV Mike) : 6/21/2017 7:35:58 PM (GMT-6)

Mine are all wild caught feral, very dark,and small. They definitely lean towards the mean end of the spectrum. We catch around 30 swarms a year in traps, raise them to at least 5 frames and sell as nucs cheaper than what people can get packages. No still doing the rocephrin, 2 more weeks. I have a question for you blue, I saw on youtube some people are leaving the stinger in for 15 or 20 minutes, do you leave them in that long? What's a crown sting? Head?

Thanks blue. No I'm not on urisidol, I will hit the points you mention.

https://vimeo.com/161877718

At 16:10 in this video they show what they are calling "apipuncture points". Thought this might be useful to some. We have been stinging along spine plus some of the points blue listed. Going to switch to some of these points as well. Doing 10 stings 3x a week plus whatever i take working the bees. Doing Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Haven't watched all of the video yet(wife made me turn it off for family feud) but from what i saw it seemed interesting.

Post Edited (WV Mike) : 7/13/2017 9:22:23 PM (GMT-6)

Bump for gabybee.