Gluten free followers

astroman said...
My personal experience is you dont know how good you can feel untill you try different things/approaches ect. Why not try avoiding glutan, any health gains are a gift. It will not happen over night.

Gassy and bloated after some meals?- that is NOT normal.

Wheat is candida fuel along with the other too many grains we consume.

Know about Dr Terry Wahl? She reversed MS from a paleo and non grains diet.

Again, I'm not celiac, but my total body inflamation went from 55,000 to 1400 on C4a test.

Many here have leaky gut but dont know it, leaving out glutan helps heal. You will never feel better if you dont heal a leaky gut.

Been there done that, now a lot better.

Interesting anecdote. If you're feeling better, I'm happy that's the case.

As for Terry, she was also eating [at least] nine cups of colorful fruits and vegetables a day, reducing the intake of processed foods, and cooking at home. There's no one magic bullet.

Many non-Western cultures thrive on diets centered around grains, starches, legumes and other foods that are deemed "no-no" foods by the Paleo crowd.

I went down the Paleo/Low-Carb/Primal/LCHF/WAPF/etc. paths for many years, thus, as previously noted, my commentary is strictly my opinion. "Paleo" and the rest of it is a passing fad - again, in my opinion. As is LCHF, Ketogenic, and the related camps. I would include Gluten-Free and Leaky Gut, too, at a high level.

But, as you wisely advised, individuality rules. Thus, there's no harm in one trying an elimination diet.

Post Edited (The Dude Abides) : 7/9/2017 8:25:47 PM (GMT-6)

I try to be gluten free but do sometimes slip and sometimes unknowingly eat gluten. Gluten causes me to bloat and I often wake the next day with crusty eyes, a stuffy nose and headache.

I think it has helped with inflammation, though it didn't entirely eradicate it. Being strict with my diet and mixing up antibiox and herbs is allowing me to slowly make some progress.

The Dude Abides said...

astroman said...
My personal experience is you dont know how good you can feel untill you try different things/approaches ect. Why not try avoiding glutan, any health gains are a gift. It will not happen over night.

Gassy and bloated after some meals?- that is NOT normal.

Wheat is candida fuel along with the other too many grains we consume.

Know about Dr Terry Wahl? She reversed MS from a paleo and non grains diet.

Again, I'm not celiac, but my total body inflamation went from 55,000 to 1400 on C4a test.

Many here have leaky gut but dont know it, leaving out glutan helps heal. You will never feel better if you dont heal a leaky gut.

Been there done that, now a lot better.

Interesting anecdote. If you're feeling better, I'm happy that's the case.

As for Terry, she was also eating [at least] nine cups of colorful fruits and vegetables a day, reducing the intake of processed foods, and cooking at home. There's no one magic bullet.

Many non-Western cultures thrive on diets centered around grains, starches, legumes and other foods that are deemed "no-no" foods by the Paleo crowd.

I went down the Paleo/Low-Carb/Primal/LCHF/WAPF/etc. paths for many years, thus, as previously noted, my commentary is strictly my opinion. "Paleo" and the rest of it is a passing fad - again, in my opinion. As is LCHF, Ketogenic, and the related camps. I would include Gluten-Free and Leaky Gut, too, at a high level.

But, as you wisely advised, individuality rules. Thus, there's no harm in one trying an elimination diet.

Is leaky gut a fad? Not any more than chronic lyme is a "fad". GF might be a fad with some diet followers who might not even benefit from it. But for other readers here, "leaky gut " can exist in some individuals, and no its not in their heads. There is proven science behind it.

astroman said...
Is leaky gut a fad? Not any more than chronic lyme is a "fad". GF might be a fad with some diet followers who might not even benefit from it. But for other readers here, "leaky gut " can exist in some individuals, and no its not in their heads. There is proven science behind it.

Yes, I'm aware of the "science"...

As I stated: "I would include Gluten-Free and Leaky Gut, too, at a high level."

People are quick to jump on a bandwagon...whatever it may be. I've been guilty of this, too, so I'm truly not throwing stones. I'm simply trying to offer a different perspective that I wish I'd read long before dietary fads caused me harm. Possibly irreversible harm.

Also, there's the confusion of correlation and causation. If I eat gluten on a day that my Internet service goes down, they I could conclude that gluten causes Internet outages.

Think and do what you will, of course. If gluten bothers you, then don't eat it. But, I would imagine that many people are already suffering enough without having to add restrictive eating on top of everything else. Again, I'm speaking from experience, which is why I'm so emphatic.

For the record, as I've previously noted, gluten-containing foods probably aren't the most nutrient-dense foods available, anyway. So, I'm not championing them...or, any food, really. There are no "magic" foods.

As for Gastrointestinal Hyperpermeability ("Leaky Gut"), I'm well aware it's a legitimate medical condition and I never asserted it was in peoples' heads. Those were your words, not mine. However, just because someone has some GI discomfort, they don't necessarily have leaky gut. There are many people [wrongly] self-diagnosing the condition and then following some wacky, restrictive diet that's usually not needed.

Like "mpost" stated, modern medicine is far from an exact science. Any of us can get on PubMed and find studies (or, even weaker, case reports) to support our position. This is what many "expert" health authors do to sell more books. Look at Dr. Oz, for example, who will support a Paleo diet one day and a Vegan diet the next.

Finally - and, again - the best thing people can do is experiment on themselves and let the results speak for themselves. But, I would imagine few are in a mental/physical/emotional state to be as rigorous as they would need to be, in order to get good data. Add Chronic Lyme Disease and the odds are further reduced.

Thanks for your comments, astroman.

Post Edited (The Dude Abides) : 7/10/2017 5:44:06 PM (GMT-6)