Tick bites

Hi and welcome to our forum,

Sorry you are having symptoms, I would find an llmd and begin treating. You will need at least 400 mg of doxy a day. Getting early treatment is so important so that you do not end up with chronic lyme.

If you do not want to use ABX I would start suggest you start a herbal protocol to combat this. An excellent book is "Healing Lyme " 2nd edition by Stephen Buhner, also "Unlocking Lyme" by Dr William Rawls M.D.

Some of the other herbal protocols are Green Dragon Botanical s in Vermont, The Cowden Formula, Beyond Balance and Jerrnigans.

You can find an llmd(Lyme literate MD) here by enabling your email so other members can respond and the start a new post asking"Seeking an llmd in such in such area".

You can also go to ilads.org and request a physician listing of llmd's in your area.

You can also email"Girlie" one of our moderator's and she will be able to send you a list of llmd's in your area.

We encourage all new members to read our "New to Lyme"start here thread at the top of the page. It has useful and important information.


Others will be along soon to chime in and I wish you the best of healing, Jo

Ticks carry the bacteria in the numbing secretion that they emit as they bite you. Many believe that you can be infected within minutes.

Post Edited (goshawk) : 10/30/2017 6:12:25 PM (GMT-6)

When I had c diff I took 2 capsules of florastor and vsl3 everyday.....

Are the vsl 3 packets a prescription and how powerful are they ?
What probiotic do you use for the enema ?

My doctor would not prescribe doxy today due to my c diff history. He wants to wait for the blood work...He gave me a peroxide iv and an anti oxidant iv and suggested I take astragulus every day and repeat the iv's every week....
This is very confusing !

Thank you....

The red irritation was there while the tick was still attached. Now 8 days later it is still red, very slightly larger with a scab in the center. Not a bullseye type wound/rash....
The blood work is for lyme and co infections (that's what the doctor told me)

I take the VSL3 packets. Each has 450 billion. I have 4 packets a day. No prescription necessary but VERY costly. It's worth it to me because it's keeping my stomach in a good place so I can move forward with treatment and try to reclaim my life. For the enemas, I use one sachet of Probiomax 350 DS which is 350 billion plus ¼ tsp Klaire labs which is 100 billion.

I take 8 Florastor a day (breakfast, lunch, dinner and bedtime).

I know this sounds extreme but it's working. And c diff is very extreme and I will take no risks in terms of getting it again. Plus the Enteragam is very important to staying c diff free. Look it up online so you can see what it does. It binds toxins in the GI track. It's a medical food and needs a prescription. Very useful as well.

Thank you all !!!
Went to my primary - he said the flu is rampant is our area and he would not give me abx due to my c diff history.....He said my bite mark is too small for lyme...But I sure feel ill (started 5 days after the bite...isn't that a strong coincidence ?)
My head is spinning with all the polarized opinions....
I will call a Llmd tomorrow. We cannot afford expensive doctors who do not accept insurance...The integrative dr. was very expensive and just about tapped us out....Hopefully the Llmd will be kind to our wallet....

Anyone ever use astragalus successfully ? or know of anyone it helped at the early stages of this ? I started to take it last night as per the integrative doctors recommendation ....
I am getting terrified at this point !

Unfortunately your primary (like mine did) could be making the worst decision for your health and wallet right now.

Flu and virus's are always around so what, shame on your md.

You were bitten by a tick and are having symptoms...you need treatment.

If you cant afford the llmd I would get Stephen Buhners book"Healing Lyme" 2nd edition asap and look at the core Lyme protocol and think about starting there.

He suggests this on p.216 Astragalus as a Preventative and when initially bit.

Astragalus is recommended in epidemic areas to take 1000 mg a day throughout the year and it says for duration of tick season to take 3000 mg a day.

At tick bite: Homeopathic ledum 1 M 3x daily for three days.

At appearance of rash:Homeopathic apis 30C 3X daily for three days and then begin core protocol.

The herbal tinctures from his core protocol can be ordered from Woodland essence in Coldbrook ,NY

There are also capsule versions of his protocol at Green Dragon Botanical in Vermont

I would suggest not to waste precious time, If my primary had given me a run of ABX or if I had herbals in the beginning, I most likely would not have gone through this hell for the last few years and my savings balance would be about 14,000 dollars higher . That doesn't include what the insurance did pay for when I was hospitalized three times. No exaggeration here.

I will note that I am now fortunate to have an llmd that takes insurance. But the tinctures , supplements detox stuff all add up and I have only been treating for 13 months.

The herbal protocols alone have healed many people that have these infections,others are unable to take ABX.

Take care, Jo

Girlie said...
Acres - this is a new infection...and you really, really don't want it to become chronic.

The size of the bite doesn't mean anything.

I realize LLMD's are expensive...but if you let this go and it goes chronic...it will be ALOT more expensive.


Antibiotics are more effective in the early stage....please don't let this go chronic.

That's the point I was trying to make. For me personally or my kids/ wife; I would seek treatment for any tick bite that made a reaction in the skin. Especially knowing what I know now.

Any sources I have read (outside of the CDC IDSA Lyme Cabal) regarding rashes say that only 30-60% of people get them at all. The CDC needs to get this rash this and rash that out of their heads. I suspect it's actually much less - like 10%.

Especially STARI Southern Tick Related Rash Illness. Which the CDC says causes Lyme-like symptoms, but is a different spirochete from B. Burgdorferi. Stari will not show up as a "CDC positive"on B. Burgdorferi serology tests. So what the heck if somebody gets STARI without the rash? Or a rash on top of their head under the hair? Or a dark skinned person?!!!

But the next line from the CDC is something like- "but don't worry about STARI because there is no Lyme disease in the South"

What the hell is wrong with these people!?!?!?!?!?

This has to change!!! This defining Lyme disease as a skin rash and a sore knee has to stop!!!!

How are they able to keep perpetuating this!?!?!!?

Sorry I'm rambling, but those are things I wish I would have looked into 2 years ago. Or wish someone would have told me.

Post Edited (Missouri) : 11/1/2017 3:35:11 PM (GMT-6)