Silly question but I have to ask... l want to take l-arginine...

There are 9 herpesvirus types known to infect humans.

I really have no better knowledge of Herpes Simplex than that.

Great, thank you! I already have some l-lysine as I used to take it to help my cold sore disappear! Will use with the l arginine.

So here's the catch 22 with L-Arg if you are trying to avoid any herpes complication.

Lysine is the antagonist of L-Arg. So while taking lysine does prevent herpes issues when taking L-Arg it is also scientifically argued that you then don't get the health benefits of L-Arg when you do this.

They cancel each other out. It makes logical sense but I don't know if it's 100% true in real life.

There are no silly questions.

This was not a happy moment of my life but I will share my experience because it is an interesting anecdote. I cant draw any conclusions about Arganine but I can say with certainty that it aggravates a cyst in my testicle with continued use. Please take note of how I used the singular in my statement...

What is interesting is Lysine will temporarily aggravate it also but it doesn't get progressively worse as it will with Arganine.

I have replaced Arganine with Agmatine Sulfate. The latter is a metabolite of the former. Some effects are similar but some are opposite of Arganine which is very curious indeed. I believe its effect on Nitric Oxide is one of these curious opposites. Agmatine feels safer, but who knows?!

I am continuing with the Lysine and Olive Leaf Extract. I have isolated the Lysine so I can pay attention to its effect since I can (without a doubt) feel an aggravation it in the cyst area within an hour of taking it but this doesn't continue to get progressively worse as it would with continued Arganine use.

I wish I could be certain of what these aminos are doing to my body. Is it attacking the cyst? Is the cyst related to a virus?

Don't be concerned with answering my questions as they are all rhetorical and in the spirit of reflection.

Isolated aminos are fascinating though. I have heard the opinion that these are simply chemicals because they do not occur in nature as isolates. I find it difficult to argue with this statement.

Imagine my recent surprise when I read the article below which suggests that 'weightlifting supplements' are inked to an increased risk of testicular cancer.

/www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/muscle-building-supplements-linked-to-testicular-cancer/

A broad statement when presented in this manner of 'weightlifting supplements' don't you think?
Why didn't the article simply say 'amino acids' as this is what it is most likely alluding to?

I admit I was taking large amounts of Arganine (5g daily) when I developed that same cancer. I got the memo a bit late but how many testicles does a guy really need?

The same 'prestigious' university now admits to the existence of a geongineering program in 2017 (albeit 2 decades after the first chemtrails appeared). But I digress.

/geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/

What is your goal with the Arganine? Does it outweigh any risks?

These are just questions I will likely ponder for the rest of my days. But, I wont be taking Arganine again. One could call me crazy for messing with any isolated aminos or Agmatine and I wouldn't argue. But the Agmatine has a function. It keeps me from becoming tolerant to Kratom. It works too.

Maybe getting Arganine from food is a much safer way. Maybe taking aminos all in their whole form would be better? It depends on the source I guess.

Some aminos are just soy beans given an acid bath. (*Cough* Braggs). Not what I would want to ingest but they are technically aminos. So much for truth in labeling.

If you decide to supplement, I do hope you have a very different and more positive experience with Arganine than the one I did.

I took the high dose Arginine per Buhner barton ella and it re-eactived my mycoplasma. I then re-read the Buhner mycoplasma section and it says stay away from Arginine. So, just be careful you don't upset your balance. It is very interesting to see how this particular supplement can create so many different issues. I stay away from it.

Thanks for your input all, chickenarise, I’m sorry to hear about your bad experience with this, it’s so difficult to know what effect each herb, supplement etc will have especially long term.

Think I will try and hit babesia with herbs and artesunate for now, as I do suffer with heroes simplex virus the last thing I need are more complications

May add in later depending on progress along with the l lysine