Our experience with LLMD in Zionsville, IN

Husband and son waited several months to see LLMD in Zionsville, IN.
Finally get scheduled but they don't get to see K.L.--instead they get in to see the doc who has been working there for 2 years and is trained as an anesthesiologist....

We had filled out extensive questionnaires, brought copies of bloodwork, and a typewritten copy of all the Buhner herbs they are taking.

Doc said he could not tell for sure it is Lyme (they have lots of exposure, have symptoms, dog tested positive for Lyme) because none of the tests done prior were definitive (borderline on Elisa, band 41 and a couple of others on IGENx).

So, he ordered some more bloodwork which should be back in 2-3 weeks.

Meanwhile, he said Buhner is a very good protocol and to continue. Expect to be on it 8-12 months.

That's it.

Well, he did say they could add in a few more things (but if he had read the list, they are already taking some of them).

They are on the full Buhner protocol (the sample one for neuroborreliosis in the book).
Both are on 7 herbs for Babesia (from other Buhner book). Will do for 30 days.
Son is also on PANDAS protocol in the book.
Both are taking magnesium and NAC.
They have been on the protocol for 9 weeks and have seen improvement after not feeling well for years.

That’s great they are both seeing improvements already.

As goshawk stated - Babesia takes longer than a month to treat... so discuss with the LLMD.


I hope they continue to make progress as they continue to treat.

Buhner isn’t doing the updates on the website anymore. He has allowed someone else to take it over

And the website is a shortened version of the protocols.

But I think there is a Facebook group that may be helpful. Again it’s not his - but people discussing the treatments... etc

You can take the herbs for Babesia longer for insurance - it’s pretty much common knowledge that Babesia needs longer than a month to treat.

And no - people often have BOTH Babs and Bart infections.

Seen a lot of LLMDs over the course of my illness, this practice is very big on trying to sell you supplements and also not willing to prescribe medications that are necessary to treat other symptoms while undergoing treatment for Lyme disease. The demeanor of how they treat you will also significantly change over time, especially if you continue to complain about symptoms they are not treating (they will also just continue to ignore and avoid bringing up these symptoms).

See another practice that will actually practice medicine. After seeing so many LLMDs, some great that just ran out of ideas, this practice doesn't fall into that category. I was disappointed in my time at this practice. I'd seen some great doctors in the past whom I parted ways with simply because I couldn't get any better with them, but I would never get on a forum to talk negatively about those doctors. After my experience with this practice, I have no issues doing so because they are not doing providing their patients with the service they should.

One of the strangest things I noticed at this practice was the circling of certain supplements to buy from them after an appointment, really!?!? They also cite and reference some of the big name LLMDs, but also refuse to prescribe certain medications that these doctors recommend in their books. It's hypocrisy.