Battles & Breakthroughs Against Lyme Disease with Dr H

/youtu.be/2qNCuUQPjpc

Great video where Dr. H remarks about the success he's having with dapsone+rifampin+doxy and biofilm busters. Also mentioned how 200mg Dapsone helped a patient reach remission and hasn't relapsed since then....

Dr. H also mentions the progress they've had with the Tick Borne Group, a lot more open mindedness, report to Congress will be in about a month.

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 9/8/2018 6:14:10 PM (GMT-6)

Girlie said...
Thanks for posting Charlie.


I'm only doing 50 mg of Dapsone....


Did he mention if the Dapsone is daily...and for how long?

He wasn't precise on the daily aspect, but I assume the 200mg meant daily. He did say he's looking at a high dose short term treatment now, 7-8 week protocol...

This has to be one of the most honest and truthful videos on Chronic Lyme Disease by the media, please spread this video everywhere.

The general manager Lew Leone also mentioned how Senator Richard Blumenthal brought a lawsuit against the IDSA because of conflicts of interest.

Some of the best reporting I've ever seen by a media group...

I will mention this time and time again, a lot of the breakthrough Dr. H's is making, is going against what the naturopaths and master herbalists like Stephne Buhner and Dr. Rawls are saying about treating chronic lyme. I hope the Lyme patients are well aware of that.

It's up to you what you want to use for treatment, just be aware of whats actually working by one of the top LLMDs.

I don't think the term Lyme Wars doesn't just mean the debate between the ILADs and the IDSA anymore, this means the debate between all Doctors, Naturopaths, Master Herbalists... Who think they have the answer and treatment for Chronic Lyme Disease....

Listen to what Dr. H has said about biofilms in this time stamp /youtu.be/2qNCuUQPjpc?t=35m16s

Now listen to what Stephen Buhner has said, you better take notice and realize whose a doctor and whose not, and who's been treating patients for decades, and whose been taking the knowledge what's learned in the lab and uses it in their modern day protocols.

Stephhen Buhner said...
I am not a big fan of the biofilm hysteria that is common among the lyme community right now. ALL bacteria form biofilms. It is just a grouping of bacteria together in one location and the formation of a kind of rigid structure, similar to coral formation in the oceans, that they use to protect themselves. This is just ONE of a great many mechanisms bacteria use to protect themselves from immune responses or antibacterial substances and so on. It is no more dangerous or important than the bacterial ability to use efflux pumps to remove antibacterial substances from their cells or to use the immune system itself to hide from assault. Most herbal medicines are effective against biofilm formations just as are most immune systems. A biofilm may slow down effectiveness of immune response or herbal antibacterials but it does not stop them. It is not the terminator of bacterial protection. Biofilms have been around for eons and plants and immune systems have developed mechanisms for dealing with them. I would not worry about them as of being of particular importance in becoming healthy.

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 9/8/2018 6:55:16 PM (GMT-6)

Girlie said...
I’ll have to make time to watch the video later

I don't think there's not a lot of new stuff said if you're well educated on the new protocols used by Dr. H and Dr. J.

Regardless, I think this is a great video to send around, because it's both a REMINDER and gets down to the nitty gritty on the recent breakthroughs in biofilm and persister cell treatment. As Dr. H stated, transnational medicine, using what we've learned through John Hopkins researchers, using that in new protocols. And it's shown to be WORKING!

youtu.be/2qNCuUQPjpc?t=35m16s

Regardless of what Dr. Kim Lewis is saying about doxycycline causing chronic lyme due to an imbalanced microbiome causing PTLDS, aka Chronic Lyme.

Regardless of what Dr. Rawls is saying that Stevia doesn't absorb in the body.

Regardless of what Stephen Buhner has said about biofilms being hysteria.

I understand this the high dose short term protocol won't be for everyone due to tolerance, but this is the biggest breakthrough in treatment form Lyme Disease. And everyone should be incorporating what we've learned on biofilms, persister cells, into the standard treatment of Chronic Lyme Disease. Because even though you may not be able to tolerate all three of these antibiotics together, you could still take Dapsone at a low dosage, maybe even pulse it.... Maybe even just use Stevia or Xylitol with your herbs or standard antibiotics. I know a lot of lyme patients aren't willing to accept it due to what their own Doctor or Naturopath is saying... But this is what Dr. H is saying, a leading researcher...

Question I have to Dr. Kim Lewis, in reference to his opinion on doxy being the main cause of chronic lyme and an imbalanced microbiome, lol...

If Dr. H's protocol of using Doxycycline as one of the main drugs with Dapsone+Rifampin, why are some of his patients reaching remission, like Dr. H's wife? When Lewis is still proposing that Doxycycline and imbalance microbiome is the main cause of Chronic Lyme...? Something isn't adding up what Lewis is proposing...

Just remember, whose sitting behind a desk in a lab and whose actually out there treating Lyme Patients by the thousands, realizing what works and what doesn't.

That's all I got to say... Because there's so much confusion in the Lyme community right now due to everyone's own theory what's causing Chronic Lyme. It's funny because, Dr Kim Lewis research at John Hopkins has led to Dr. H's own breakthrough with Chronic Lyme. But Dr. Kim Lewis still thinks the main cause of chronic lyme is do to the overuse of doxycycline and imbalance microbiome, aka leading to what he calls PTSD, aka Chronic Lyme.

And I'll repeat what I said above, so I hope everyone realizes what's going on right now.

Charlie55 said...
I don't think the term Lyme Wars doesn't just mean the debate between the ILADs and the IDSA anymore, this means the debate between all Doctors, Naturopaths, Master Herbalists... Who think they have the answer and treatment for Chronic Lyme Disease....

Because even though Doctors like Horrowitz and Kim Lewis are working together, there's still an opposition of thought process on what's the leading cause of Chronic Lyme.

All this is a valuable tool to what you use choose as a protocol for your own treatment right now.

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 9/8/2018 7:28:01 PM (GMT-6)

"I will mention this time and time again, a lot of the breakthrough Dr. H's is making, is going against what the naturopaths and master herbalists like Stephne Buhner and Dr. Rawls are saying about treating chronic lyme. I hope the Lyme patients are well aware of that."


I'm not sure what you're meaning? What in particular are you talking about re: Buhner/Rawls treating chronic lyme??


I know Buhner says not to worry about biofilms...but I think that's regarding an herbal lyme treatment protocol.

Charlie55 said...

Girlie said...


There is a high success rate of people who treat lyme early - ie first bitten...first signs of symptoms...and never look back.
The drug of choice is generally doxy.

I'm not buying it's the cause of chronic lyme.

Although - Dr. J. doesn't prescribe doxy...not that I've seen. I think he just prefers minocycline.
He doesn't seem to use biaxin either...rather azithromycin...not that I've seen.

I take the successful LLMD's experience over the studies...

Dr. H's wife, wasn't one of those who caught lyme early, she's been on many different antibiotics longterm and was one of the chronic lyme patients who used this new protocol, and is now in remission without any symptoms now, according to Dr. H... Why don't you watch the video Girlie, like you said, before making statements like that, you are guessing!

This is exactly what I've always been saying, how there's a lost in translation with what Dr. H says and what the lyme patients repeat on the forums.

Girlie said...
There is a high success rate of people who treat lyme early - ie first bitten...first signs of symptoms...and never look back.
The drug of choice is generally doxy.

I'm not saying you're wrong with that statement Girlie, because you are right, but there patients like Dr. H suggests whose tried a lot of other protocols and longterm antibiotics that haven't worked, that have tried this high dose short term protocol, and it has helped them, like his wife.

Again, it won't be for everyone due to coinfections and other reasons, which Dr. H still acknoledges....

I will try to watch it later. (meaning in several hours - when I have a good chunk of time)
Most of the people I know personally with chronic lyme have it because they didn't get any treatment early on...not because they took doxy early on.

I'm not arguing with you...just disputing what Lewis said (....is still proposing that Doxycycline is the main cause of Chronic Lyme...? ) that's all...lol.

Charlie,

I haven't watched the videos. I have a hard time watching things. Did Dr. H say that his antibiotic protocol is right for everyone across the board? Did he say that every patient he's put on this protocol made a full recovery and did not relapse?

Wow he also has found a cure for Bart that will be published soon, 5 drug protocol thanks for sharing he treated 13k my llmd is close with over 12k he was talking about this with me too but my dang anxiety said no way. Hmmmmmmmm thinking lol I see hin in three weeks we shall see.

ENCOM said...
Charlie55: FYI, you're being a jerk.

Oh yeah, how I'm being a jerk, how? I haven't called anyone names, all I did was bring attention to whats going on within the Lyme Community. I'm not going to stay silent, I've been studying and following this disease for 10 years.

Why don't you debate me and prove me wrong, rather than calling me a name!

There is starting to be a huge opposition between the naturopaths, herbalists, and what the top LLMDs are saying. I bring attention to this and I'm a jerk. Can't tolerate it, well just stick to the rife and herb posts and you'll be fine.

I'm not going to say silent on what the top LLMDs are using and patients are reaching remission, while Stephen Buhner spread nonscientific misinformation about biofilms.

WalkingbyFaith said...
Did Dr. H say that his antibiotic protocol is right for everyone across the board?

I'm sorry, I'm getting tired of pro-herbalists and people putting words into LLMDs mouths, this was purposely trolling...

Dr. H has been a huge, very huge advocated for herbs on coinfections and using them in collaboration with antibiotics.

I've seen numerous posts of herbal patients posting articles on this forum, well it's my turn! Can't tolerate my point of view because it doesn't fit your herbalists ideology, well too bad, it's a free country.

Both these articles are being shared, time and time again, well I'm here to express the opposition of that. Because there is a lot of consensus that both longtherm use of antibiotics and stevia works on Chronic Lyme and Dr. H study proves this.

"There is little consensus, however, on antibiotic use for chronic Lyme disease."
/rawlsmd.com/health-articles/when-to-consider-antibiotic-therapy

"But here’s the fundamental flaw: Stevia is not absorbed into the human body."
/rawlsmd.com/health-articles/the-doctor-is-in-what-you-need-to-know-now-about-treating-lyme-an-interview-with-dr-bill-rawls

Look, they don't call it Lyme Wars for nothing, if you can't refrain from people calling names and aren't educated enough to debate about the science behind Lyme Disease, don't bother joining the conversation.

Oh and by the way, why is there another member on here going out of there way directly suggesting "stevia is fact not fiction."
/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4062364

Again, this is in relation to the opposing posts and articles suggesting Stevia won't absorb into the body. There's some of us who have tried and it has worked quite well, and all we're doing is giving our side of things.

Dr. Rawls and other herbalists have given their take on this, why can't we give ours? And we're jerks for giving an opposition?

Dr. Rawls has just arrived on the scene, Dr. H has treated over 10,000 patients plus and has been researching this disease for over a decade!

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 9/8/2018 11:16:37 PM (GMT-6)

WalkingbyFaith said...
Charlie,

I haven't watched the videos. I have a hard time watching things. Did Dr. H say that his antibiotic protocol is right for everyone across the board? Did he say that every patient he's put on this protocol made a full recovery and did not relapse?

I just watched the video. He never mentioned if it was for everyone across the board...nor did I hear anything about everyone making full recovery on this protocol.

He said he's had good success with it...I'm not sure if he's starting patients right away on it...or if he's trying the 'older' protocols first...and if they aren't responding..or relapsing..then he prescribes the Dapsone. I don't think he said.

He did say that his wife was first taking 50 mg of dapsone...then he raised it to 100 because she relapsed on the 50...and then after relapsing on the 100 mg, he raised it to 200 mg. She hasn't relapsed yet...and I believe it's been 9 weeks? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
I didn't make notes...and just going on my poor memory.

ENCOM said...
Charlie55: FYI, you're being a jerk.

ENCOM - I know that Charlie has not been appropriate with the way he has addressed members here...but we all have to be respectful....name-calling isn't acceptable...from any of us...