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Posted 5/1/2019 8:28 AM (GMT 0)
I'm also thinking about upping my oral vitamin c intake. I've been ingesting a few small teaspoons of the ascorbic acid powder which I bought in bulk the other day. Either my absorption rate isn't good enough or I've been simply not taking enough of this stuff to make the adrenals happy. This could be another reason why I got the hives the other day. Just a thought.
Posted 5/1/2019 12:15 PM (GMT 0)
Insomniaaa, if you think there is even a chance that you got hives after stinging I would be very careful. Do you keep an Epipen on site when you sting if you are doing it yourself? Next time try one sting first and wait an hour to see how you react to it. Make sure someone is with you and knows how to use your Epipen. May be nothing or it could be an allergic reaction. Be safe.
Posted 5/1/2019 5:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hello WV Mike. Thanks for your comment.
Yes of course there is an Epipen nearby. Anything else would be asking for trouble.
So far I've been stinging myself but I'm seriously considering visiting a professional apitherapist for my next session.
I heeded your advice and did 1 sting, waited 30-60 minutes and then did another sting and so on. I ended up doing 6 full back stings and 1 let's call it test sting on each shoulder.
No adverse reactions or hives so far. Knock on wood. Does this mean that I'm not allergic to the bee venom?
Apart from a minor brain herx I feel pretty good actually and I'm very happy that I received my bee venom dose for today.
Thanks to everyone involved especially those poor little bees.

Post Edited (insomniaaa) : 5/1/2019 1:59:17 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/3/2019 12:16 PM (GMT 0)
Hello all.
So a week after my last post ( I didn t see all the following posts, I don t know why...), I feel like crap.
Intense nerve pain, nothing can touch it, weakness, extreme muscle tightness and double plantar fasciite, feeling like I am dying all the day, pfffff 😞

I had a big big stress tuesday, because of an appoitment with a neurologist ( my pcp referred me to her to try to help with my nerve pain). It was in Paris, 2 1/2 hour from my home. Five minutes in the car and the vibrations triggered my nerve pain on a 10/10 ! Horrible day, and the neuro classicaly said me that I have not lyme etc etc etc. Wants to do a spinal tap, an EMG....
No way.

I can t sleep because of the pain due to my clothes or blankets o n my skin, etc etc.

I just finished my 5th week at 8 stings and my skin again doesn t react ( just a little redness during 30min). I know that it is ups and downs, but when things improve a little, it is so hard to go back again.

Congratulations Rainycloud for your improvements !
Posted 5/3/2019 12:55 PM (GMT 0)
https://fourthievesvinegar.org/

Instructions here on how to make your own Epipen. Many you tube how to make videos.
Posted 5/3/2019 3:20 PM (GMT 0)
hey bullekid sorry to hear their is no relief for you. a lot of the arthritis pain went away at 9months with rocephin help but the nerve pain where it feels like matches took a while . i think its bart on the nerves every sensation was like matches burning skin even cold wind ! are you on herbals too does france have Kratom? i did have to eat some tramadol and white willow decoction while treating for pain. if you dont give your mind a break from the alarm it will break the psyche eventually...please find a way to manage bullekidambule i forgot to mention that the pk protocol helped soothe nerves maybe add mct and sunflower lecithin if possible?..::

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 5/3/2019 9:45:51 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/4/2019 12:08 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Bluelyme.

It is a roller coaster for sure, but I am just at thr beginning.
Kratom is hard to find here, and all the IV stuff ( curcumin etc... are impossible here, we even can t have a port for iv antibiotics). I have some phomhatydilcholin in powder, and tincture of lion s mane. I should give them a try.

My blood this morning after one month of bvt : a lot of more WBC, my blood is cleaner, but the spirochetes are in a very good shape lol ! Bees have a hard work to do.
I speak in French first and in English at the end of the video ( my accent is a mess 😅)

https://youtu.be/mpign2afkp8
Posted 5/4/2019 5:51 PM (GMT 0)
great vid per usual bulle kid . couple questions? did your nerve pain increase after your little exercise 2milr jog ? how long had the blood been on the slide when you made video ? i ask because there is a lot of misshapen cells and charcot leydon crystals ? can you get allimed or allicin there to add to the zith? can you build a plasma rife one guy here does it with small bulb ,car ignition coil and freq generator? your english is cute dont sweat the accent oh will you please post a few of your videos to the microscopy thread that mustardseed started for to bump and for posterity?
Posted 5/4/2019 6:31 PM (GMT 0)
My nerve pain increased the day after I exercise. But it seems to be related with the bactrim. I ran this afternoon, it killed my legs and feet but no nerve pain.
It is so strange.
The vibrations in car are the most pain trigger. My body burns all over in 2 min when I drive and it last at least two days after, with my right leg spasmed.

Thank you for the video. I posted it on the bee venom facebook group and Ellie Lobel said they weren t spirochetes. ☹
My blood was on the slide for 15 minutes.
What are charcot leydon crytals ?
I have the cbs mutation so I normaly can t eat onions garlic etc. I dont know if I can take allicin because of that... I have a spooky but not with the plasma bulb. And tons of alinia too ( did 4 months last summer, 1500mg a day). Didn t find HH2 in Europe yet.
But my brain fog is a lot better, when I sting I feel the heat of the venom in my head, it clearly works in the brain.
Posted 5/4/2019 7:09 PM (GMT 0)
hmmm ya bactrim seemed to causes bart to five into nerves and vessels to hide . also those with sulferation issues cbs dont do well with sulfa abx ?! it really depleted my paba and folate damaged cells and slight sjs after only 10 days ! those blebs may be something else but the long snake bacteria that seemed stunned was clearly a spirochete! keep at it
Posted 5/4/2019 7:47 PM (GMT 0)
Yes sulfa drugs are not ideal. I will give a try to allicin 😉.
Thank you for the encouragements.
Posted 5/5/2019 1:39 PM (GMT 0)
Bullekideambule which microscope are you using if I may ask? Thanks.
Nice video by the way ;-)
Posted 5/6/2019 1:47 AM (GMT 0)
Why is lyme and co's notoriously difficult to diagnose by doctors when anyone can look into a microscope and see it?
Posted 5/6/2019 9:45 AM (GMT 0)
My microscope is an AmScope B390B DK dark field.

Hoagie, Bluelyme is a lot better than me with microscopy, I think he would have great explanations about it.
It is controversial, and a ot of MD doesn t believe in it ( I think), maybe because it is too simple...
Posted 5/6/2019 9:47 AM (GMT 0)
Oh , i forgot :
I reach 10 stings this morning !
The real game is beginning now.
Posted 5/6/2019 4:03 PM (GMT 0)

Hoagie said...
Why is lyme and co's notoriously difficult to diagnose by doctors when anyone can look into a microscope and see it?

then they would be required to treat and declare a pandemic- in the doc under our skin there was lil old swiss doc who used a microscope from the 1900s to see lyme , after his suggestion that people forgo the labs owned by insurance he then got his medical license revoked. average quest or labcorp gets way more running a western blot to check for immune response instead of actual invader .my pcp as a kid used to have a scope in his office to check for stuff ?! there are only a few engineered spirochetes and we dont have lepto or syphilis -upon looking 9/10 people's blood have borrelia...
dna connex confirms this with same stats in samples containing borrelia sent to them.

congrats on reaching dose bullekid!
Posted 5/8/2019 8:54 PM (GMT 0)
Congratulations Bullekideambule!
I'm currently at 9 stings spread out evenly throughout the day. I'm slowly getting there ;)

Bluelyme, could you please pinpoint where on the head we are allowed to sting and how often would you do it? Thanks.

Post Edited (insomniaaa) : 12/28/2020 1:11:26 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 5/9/2019 5:25 PM (GMT 0)
the scalp is pretty resilient and has a lot of blood flow , if you ever knocked your noggin then you know how long it takes to stop bleeding there. the face is different vasculature and nerve bundles . ive done full stings for sinus and tooth infections for clients however mostly remove the stinger and tap areas or set in for a bit. another option i teach clients with vision issues who cant miagi the stinger out is to do a quik full and pull it out after 3-10 sec and use it tapping else where.
on the tip tip of crown where earline crosses is a good fog lifter also i was told lyme loves c1 area by base of head , i do 2 where tendon attaches.. i must warn the first few times were doozies but my threshold is pretty weaksauce.. keep us posted
Posted 5/9/2019 7:01 PM (GMT 0)

bluelyme said...
then they would be required to treat and declare a pandemic- in the doc under our skin there was lil old swiss doc who used a microscope from the 1900s to see lyme , after his suggestion that people forgo the labs owned by insurance he then got his medical license revoked. average quest or labcorp gets way more running a western blot to check for immune response instead of actual invader .my pcp as a kid used to have a scope in his office to check for stuff ?! there are only a few engineered spirochetes and we dont have lepto or syphilis -upon looking 9/10 people's blood have borrelia...
dna connex confirms this with same stats in samples containing borrelia sent to them.

congrats on reaching dose bullekid!

9 out of 10?

If this is true, then in many cases, lyme is not the problem.
Posted 5/9/2019 7:57 PM (GMT 0)
lets say willy b was right about the the super rickettsial co-infection causing a majority of symptomology id still put my money down for bee venoms antimocrobial effectiveness. however my agreement of dr k's russian nesting doll theory leads me to really peruse charle55 s thread with gusto
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4125075
Posted 5/17/2019 5:23 PM (GMT 0)
I just did a couple of back stings and one on my shoulder. Next thing I know my shoulder swells up to the size of a tennis ball. It doesn't hurt or anything. It's just red and swollen. Is this a normal local reaction?
I must've really hit the spot huh.

By the way I can feel the venom trespassing the BBB. I've got a very mild headache. It's barely noticeable really. Hopefully it's attacking some pathogens in the head. Can't wait to start doing some neck and head stings as well as a couple of stings in the sacroiliac area.
My body also developed a new BLO rash site on my leg (preexisting chronic BLO infection). When can I start stinging the legs? I've only done a few shoulder and forearm stings so far (and lots of back stings of course).

Thanks for your advice.

Post Edited (insomniaaa) : 7/2/2019 11:05:23 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/18/2019 7:19 AM (GMT 0)
Hello bvt friends.
2 weeks at ten stings. I finished the atbx last sunday.
Things are really challenging, pain everywhere, horrible anxiety and depression, extreme stiffness etc etc.
My periods finally came ( 10 days later than usual), so I am not in the best time of the month too.
Do you think I can herx all the time ( detox doesn t touch it) ?
Or my infections are just stronger ? I know it is the million dollars question...
Posted 5/18/2019 6:19 PM (GMT 0)
insomnia-
well i had reactions like that on knees and elbows , when a client tried a full on back shoulder the er tried to convince her she was having allergic reaction... i know inflammed areas with lots of nerves hurt more at 1st ... i must still ice lumbar stings.
perhaps and bentonite acv bath would give your skin the room it needs to detox i used ooo in milk as a killing bath too. retracing was interesting as sensations and symptoms from my younger days would come and go....i do sting eyes of knees and elbows , i saw a bunion reduce in half with 2 treatments , cyst of golfers elbow took 2 months . the scar tissue on my achilles tendon tear has gone down by half with stings and shockwave tx...

bullekid - the bentonite baths may be of service to you also . iv vitc and glutathione were crucial during my superherxes, can you find oral versions and binders like clorella ? yes euro borrelia is more virulent and neuro but can you add something like allicin or andrographis... what is your probiotic intake? and gut health like? do you have access to saunas or ion foot detox ? can you juice live veggies to shift your ph? have you supplemented and restored the anemia? have you done any kinesiology to find out what exactly may be the culprit.....just suggestions keep us posted
Posted 5/25/2019 4:49 AM (GMT 0)
my teacher would only do monthly sessions of lots of bees ive gone on vacation for a few weeks but end up jonesing em . the itch may come back a bit but detox room helps u should be ok start slow or muscle test for how many bees to restart with
Posted 6/14/2019 10:12 AM (GMT 0)
Hello the bvters.

Here is my blood, I am doing bvt since april 1st. Symptoms worse...

I have a good detox plan, and I hope all these spiros are the cystics forms opened after the stop of atb 5 weeks ago...

https://youtu.be/y1d92yg9hca
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