Buhner Herbs-feel worse

Hi,
I've noticed some changes since starting Buhner's Herbs around June 4 (JK, MilkThistle, Aswaganda and Bidens with L-Arginine) ) and specifically since starting "Para Botanic Select" for intestinal bugs (wormwood, olive leaf, berberine, thyme, neem, clove bud, black walnut, oregon grape and myrrh) The PBS was given to me by a LL chirop. in an effort to heal my body so it can heal the Babesia, and what ever else I have (probably Bart, etc. but always testing negative for Lyme). He claims it's better not to attack the sickness but to support the body. I started Buhners herbs at 1/4 tsp and worked up to 1/2 tsp twice a day. I just finished the JK a few days ago.
First I'm having a really hard time breathing and a racing heart. Walking up stairs is exhausting.....This used to come and go but now is most of the day and more pronounced. Or maybe it just feels more pronounced because it had mostly abated for a year. Yesterday was really bad-could not get a breath. Second, I'm sleeping late and waking up groggy & confused, which used to be the norm for me (all my life) and of course got worse after the tick borne stuff- but suddenly disappeared about 2 yrs ago. I was so glad to be able to wake up somewhat alert but that seems to be leaving....nice while it lasted. I am keeping a journal of herbs & symptoms, but would like to know if this is a herx or am I getting worse.
I still need to get Red Sage and Sweet Annie (waiting for them to be sent).
Any ideas? And is it OK to take some herbs first as I'm doing, or do i need to start again taking them all at once?

I wrote out a big long reply to this yesterday that I see isn't here anymore. Dang. But here's the gist, worded less well:

That parasite supplement is intense stuff and will make you feel absolutely awful. That could be because of parasites dying (and releasing their own infections and heavy metals into your systems) or from bacteria and fungi dying (many of those herbs kill bacteria and fungi, too) or from a negative reaction to one or more of the ingredients (that's a lot to start all at one time, and feeling bad could be a side effect or allergy).

The Japanese knotweed and other Buhner herbs usually are meant to be taken for a while, so if you have run out, then buy more. Start herbs slowly and ramp up to full dosages slowly, so that if anything isn't a god fit for you, then you'll know what it is, ditto if anything is especially helpful.

Grab a pulse oximeter to put your mind at ease about air hunger. Is the racing heart with exertion only, or anytime you are upright (i.e. POTS)?

I agree with your chiro about supporting the body being the number one priority (moreso than killing stuff). I suppose if he put you on such an intense supplement blend, then he also has you on an intense detox regimen, like it's your full-time job?

Slow and steady. Detox proactively. Good luck!

I haven’t noticed posts missing - and haven’t heard a thing from other Mods - so I doubt it.

I'm too new here to know anything about censorship, but in this case there was an accidental double post of this thread. Here's the original: https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4134841

Looking at the herbs taken, wormwood, which is artemisia, can pack a real wallop. I've had to discontinue it for now. If it's part of a blend perhaps the most you can do is titrate down the whole blend, which is unfortunate. I also had a hard time with Red Sage (Salvia m.) at first, it causing chest pressure and irregularities of heart beat. That's ironic considering it's effective for strengthening the heart, but I guess it was affecting something in that regard, and things often get worse before they get better. I'm pretty much ok with it now.

In any case, on dosages start low and go slow. The hardest thing I find is striking a balance between hitting the disease effictively and keeping herx manageable. It's especially hard when starting out with a regimen, when herx tend to go non-linear.

Post Edited (paul b) : 6/26/2019 2:59:08 PM (GMT-6)