Bruhners

You may want to hit Babesia and Bartonella pretty hard. Cryptolepis is said to be good for Babesia and Houttuynia for Bart.

If you can find a good LLMD, I tend to think that would be better than doing it alone.

I also was inspired by RealFoodRebel and also Dr Rawls and started Buhner’s protocol for Lyme and bartonella in June 2017. I ended up being one of the sensitive tiny dose people.

I did not recover. The reasons I didn’t do so well is that mold is a huge problem for me and avoiding exposure has not been easy. Sometimes it seems impossible, as it feels like 95% of buildings in my area are moldy or have water damage.

The other reason, which is probably the bigger reason is my gut. I did not get Rx antifungals until this summer, and I can tell by my response to Nystatin (as well as my OAT test results) that either yeast or mold are overgrown in my gut. Initially, I didn’t really believe that mold could colonize the gut, but I do believe that now.

I, too, skipped over the parasite and gut cleanses and jumped right into Buhner’s protocols. Turns out I also have an endless ropeworm problem. I am not sure about other worms.

Unfortunately, I did not jump right into the Wahl’s Paleo diet. I naively chose denial thinking that because I had not done longterm abx that I didn’t have Candida. My diet is still terrible.

My advice to you is keep doing the herbs you’re doing but get the diet and gut pathogens under control first and make sure you’re not living, working, or spending time in water damaged or moldy buildings. You will have a better chance at actual recovery, IMO, instead of going on the endless merry-go-round that many of us are riding.

If you have no mold issues, a great diet, no signs of gut dysfunction then sail away.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 1/22/2020 9:34:35 AM (GMT-7)

Thanks guys.
As far as current herbs I'm taking. I think all is good with them. I'm confused lately as I just keep feeling bad and so different ever other day. ( occular migraine, fog, malaise, back pain) ... so it's hard to tell what's happening. What's doing what. Anxiety and Depression are my main never ending symptom.
Yes I tested for mold with Great Plains. I was positive for ochratoxin A at I think 15.6.
I started charcoal / glutathione butstop them if I don't feel well which is it so I haven't taken them consistently.
I must be getting the mold from my home. So moving is something I need to do. But that is very hard in my situation. Also don't want to uproot whole fam and have coinfections be the main prob and not get well.
I will consider parasite cleanse. It's just a lot.
I need to start taking more vitamins.
My diet is usually pretty good unless I'm sick.
I wake up with burping a lot and it lasts a while. Sometimes all day. Or it starts later.
Will start adaptagens/( holy basil and ashwaganda ) in a couple days. To address anxiety and depression. They helped a long time ago but they haven't helped this past year. I will give them one more go then try lithium Oratate.
It's such a slog to even get a plan together and start. It all takes time and Ive got two kids.

Adding to confusion, last week I sweat for five nights just before period. They stopped so I thought maybe moving into perimenopause. Last night sweated again but I wore a fleece to bed.
Just going back and forth and round and down. It's all too much.
Thankyou all for your help, patience, and thoughtfulness. Healing to you all.

Post Edited (Lightlife) : 1/22/2020 9:59:14 AM (GMT-7)

WBF - I understand what you mean about failing to get better, but YOU are not a failure! You are an exceptionally strong and resilient person. You have tried a million things and been through so much upheaval and still keep trying, actively, including new and intimidating treatments. And your compassion and endless help for others on this forum are admirable and impressive. You are the opposite of a failure! Sorry if I read too much into your post there, but I just wanted to make sure to address that, in case you were feeling down.

I have never met an LLMD who is not at least familiar with the Buhner protocol, and many use it in conjunction with pharmaceuticals or instead of them. My Dr. B definitely is good with a variety of herbal protocols, especially Buhner.

Vagus nerve makes sense, sure. Any luck with vagus nerve stimulating exercises or nervous system support stuff?

For SIBO people tend to have belching, bloating, and feelings of indigestion, but sometimes there are no symptoms. Ditto for GERD and laryngopharangeal reflux. But I guess neither of those explains the yawning. People test for SIBO with a breath test, and reflux can be diagnosed clinically sometimes or with a scope. You can treat either without testing, though.

MCAS can be diagnosed clinically, but sometimes doctors will order a test for histamine or tryptase (must be measured within 12 hours of exposure to trigger). Sometimes it's just obvious, and it's so common with Lyme. Triggers can include infections, high-histamine foods, allergens or environmental irritants, cold, heat, showers, stress, and exercise. The symptoms that make people think of MCAS tend to be allergy-like reactions, skin reactions (hives, flushing, rashes, itching), and digestive issues including food allergies, but for me the main reaction was brain fog. Much of my malaise and brain fog evaporated when I switched to a low-histamine diet and started taking quercetin with meals. People treat with quercetin, bioflavonoids, antihistamines, PPIs, mast cell stabilizing drugs (ketotifen, cromolyn sodium), freeze-dried nettles, DAO, and low-histamine diets.

I know things have been so hard, Lightlife. There must be a corner to turn here soon!