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Posted 1/23/2020 4:59 AM (GMT 0)
Do some people treat all three main infections at once. Or do they usually break it up into Lyme/ Bart at once and then Babs/Lyme ?

Thanks for any insight
Posted 1/23/2020 1:12 PM (GMT 0)
Dr J does lyme first then adds in babesia then bartonella. Not sure about others
Posted 1/23/2020 1:23 PM (GMT 0)
Same here. Start with Diflucan for Candida, and a Lyme combo ABX first to guage your reaction. Then phase in Babs treatment (typically Mepron or Malaron combined with Zith). Stay on that for 4 to 6 months rotating the Lyme ABX mix to prevent resistance. Trying to treat all three at one time may be tough with many overlapping sx.

Then if you have made some (or even little progress) go to a Lyme and Bart combo protocol. Bart seems to be the toughest Co- to beat and it may take several rounds of alternating between Babs and Bart to start seeing good progress.
Posted 1/23/2020 5:33 PM (GMT 0)
I have heard that most start with treating Borrelia because it creates the most immune disfunction, so even if a co-infection is a bigger problem for you in general, you might get more bang for your treatment buck if you weaken Borrelia first. Not sure how legit that is, just passing along the reason I have heard for why most people seem to start with Borrelia treatment.

That said, some don't start with the infections at all, and rather work on the gut and detox pathways first, but that's not what you asked about. smile
Posted 1/23/2020 11:09 PM (GMT 0)
Dr J started me on lyme and Babesia - prob because I had already previously treated lyme and bart and some Babs herbals.

Then after 5 months I switched to Bartonella/Persisters protocol and with that there was one week of Babesia meds (I guess to keep it down)

Now I’m on Maintenance which is Bart/lyme
Posted 1/24/2020 3:22 AM (GMT 0)
Chinese medicine sees the body as a whole and doesn't really divide treatment into infections. It does everything at once.
Posted 1/26/2020 6:14 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting. Thanks for the responses. Thought I would ask because I know there was a lot of talk about autoimmune issues and autoimmune encephalitis.

I was reading Dr. Frid interview. She specializes in this and says you need to be treating all infections at once for the autoimmune encephalitis to subside.

https://www.bayarealyme.org/blog/its-all-in-your-head-or-is-it/

“ Often, patients are treated symptomatically or treated for one infectious, inflammatory, or autoimmune process at a time. Results are attained only when the patient is treated for everything that is going on with them all at once.“

From what I gather it doesn’t seem like a lot of LLMD are treating all at the same time?
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