Do any of you crash/PEM from talking etc?

I can talk like a crazy person for weeks. But yesterday I talked 20 minutes with my uncle on the phone and I crashed hard afterwards. Now my stomach muscles are dead and I have to shut up for days now potentially weeks while my stomach muscles recovering. Legit PEM.

These things happen randomly and are very hard to predict. But they happen most likely while being a little more fatigued than usual, though idk. I can get this in my jaw too if I speak too much or eat hard foods.

Anyone else like this?

yes, i also used to get pretty severe PEM from talking - socialising - even when a comfortable easy environment with people i knew well.

i love talking and conversation and always enjoyed it at the time - in my case it was just the mental activity and effort required to formulate and communicate ideas - used up something or over stressed something in the CNS - leading to PEM.

its not just physical tasks that can lead to PEM - there are a lot of things in life that, before we became ill, we took for granted and were unaware of the effort they entailed - but they are actually brain intensive tasks - like conversation.

driving was another one for me - driving more than 30minutes would often wear me out and give me a day of increased fatigue and headaches