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Posted 6/18/2021 11:18 AM (GMT 0)
Great post deep_sleep, spot on! I too am very interested in the vagal response. I wrote a post like 6m ago about how I think the autonomic nervous system stress plays into chronic illness and someone got really sarcastic with me was uncalled for, but I guess not enough people appreciate the link.

Anyway, I think there’s a huge link between the ANS, the digestive system and the immune system. The 3 seem to form triangle. I’m particularly interested in how ANS dysfunction causes immune dysfunction, especially since I saw how that vagus injection lowered my inflammation.

Here’s a cool like I was reading yesterday that kind of describes that triangle, and almost exactly how I think i got sick. I want to do Dr Kharrazians neuro lecture series but it’s $150/month

https://broresearch.com/autonomic-dysunction-real-or-not-real-very-real/
Posted 6/18/2021 1:51 PM (GMT 0)
I disagree with a lot of people on the board about how you should approach illness so don’t always take that as a negative 😊

I went for a long forest walk today and I decided to skip my high-stress work for September and learn more web development and look for a job with that instead. I made an e-shop last summer that I work with so going to start adding a few hours a week with web development starting on Monday next week for the summer.

Nice link, will look more in detail later. Now its beer, potato chips, and Sweden – Slovakia in soccer 😊
Posted 6/18/2021 1:58 PM (GMT 0)

Deep_sleep said...
I disagree with a lot of people on the board about how you should approach illness so don’t always take that as a negative 😊

I went for a long forest walk today and I decided to skip my high-stress work for September and learn more web development and look for a job with that instead. I made an e-shop last summer that I work with so going to start adding a few hours a week with web development starting on Monday next week for the summer.

Nice link, will look more in detail later. Now its beer, potato chips, and Sweden – Slovakia in soccer 😊

Good luck, i am rooting for sweden as well in that match, although I want Italy to win it all smile

Post Edited (dcd2103) : 6/18/2021 8:11:08 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/24/2021 12:30 PM (GMT 0)
I'm hearing great things about the Cereset. My friend did it and apparently its pretty amazing. He said you get a full reading at the beginning of the treatment that shows where your brain is in sympathetic and parasympathetic and they try to balance that. He said he fell asleep during the first treatment it was so relaxing, and after the 4 treatments feels much calmer.

They have it at the Spero clinic so i'm pretty excited to try it.

https://cereset.com/
Posted 6/25/2021 8:05 AM (GMT 0)
Looks nice. Looking forward to hear if you get any improvments from it.
Posted 6/28/2021 12:30 AM (GMT 0)
Must read experiment on vagus nerve

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-zapping-the-vagus-nerve-jump-start-immunity/
Posted 6/28/2021 7:39 AM (GMT 0)
Vagus nerve devices are interesting and something I thought about buying before, but I have decided to go full natural with my treatment for this.
I believe that the biggest problem is my high-stress job, with a high variance income (negative this month) and financial stress. Where I hope that I only will continue with that job for two months and soon get a job related to my studies.

The second is that I need more connection IRL. There will be a lot more of that over the summer and we were just away over the weekend in a house with others and it felt really good. We will go back there for one week, just the two of us soon. It will be great for my vagus nerve to be able to swim in the ocean every day and spend a lot of time in a beautiful garden

I'm also going to start workout some with a friend at an outdoor gym when he comes back after the summer.
Fixing those, continue with cold showers in the morning, vibration platform, opening up for flow of the vagus nerve with some exercises, etc should hopefully fix this.
I never got a real vacation last year as I worked with my girlfriend's start-up then, but going to get two weeks off this summer 😊
Posted 6/28/2021 12:31 PM (GMT 0)
This is interesting. I went to Utah and was hiking and got in a very scary situation. Since then, my symptoms have gotten really bad….my friend says that adrenaline acts as a steroid so I was assuming maybe I was having a set back. But when I get a massage, all my symptoms go away. With acupuncture, all my symptoms get worse during the session but I still pass out. Then I feel better for several days. So, I definitely see this as a potent piece of the puzzle.

I’ve been meditating for years but fell off the wagon in Covid due to a full house and now I see that is was really helping me. I’m looking for triggers and I’m seeing that maybe there is a correlation between my parents moving closer to me in September and that is when I started going down hill. their marriage is terrible and they are always trying to put me in the middle and take sides. It’s really messed me up. Setting boundaries doesn’t work with them and makes things worse.
Posted 7/2/2021 4:17 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, something like that can affect how you feel and would be a likely trigger.

I got a 4 on a re-exam so my average is now 4 of the 4 courses I had the last 6 months. I'm very happy with that as it’s the first time that I studied full time and that I have been working at the same time. You can fail, get a 3, 4, or 5 on the exams.
I might have Lyme and mold illness but I identify more with stress problems than mold and Lyme. For that reason, I'm going to cut down on the high-stress work for the summer and put more time into web development instead. This autumn is going to be tuff financially but I think it’s the right decision.

Looking forward to going away to the house close to the ocean soon for a week 😊 Going to be in the ocean every day and do a ton of earthing in the garden. They also had an amazing outdoor gym nearby that I will spend a lot of time at.
I have also done the cold shower in the morning every day since I got back. If there is one thing that I do, that I would like others to also do, it’s the cold shower the first thing in the morning. Such an amazing start 😊
Posted 7/2/2021 4:27 PM (GMT 0)
I've started cutting way down on the coffee (only on weekends and a small cup).

In addition, i learned some cool autonomic tricks.

I used to meditate after work. This doesnt work as youre already amped up. You should meditate first thing in the morning before you start your day. So i do 20 minutes of Sam Harris' meditation app.

Then, I learned a cool trick. You color w/ your left hand while listening to classical music. Its very calming, and the use of the left hand promotes neural healing and growth. But in addition, so does gratitute journaling. I've combined them and I now write my journal using my left hand while listening to classical music.

Gratitude journaling sounds stupid, but one thing I've been focused on is turning things positive. The Obstacle Is The Way. I've kind of been trying to focus on the fact that I was very unhappy before I got sick, but now I've learned a lot about life and how meaningful it is. This disease is something I can beat, and it will make me a better person. I need to appreciate this opportunity. That change of mindset really does work wonders.
Posted 7/2/2021 4:36 PM (GMT 0)
Hmm, I love my coffee but I know that Ben Greenfield takes decaf weeks to not get too much caffeine.

Nice, I mostly listen to piano music or ocean waves when I work, so I agree that classic music could be good.

Why is gratitude journaling stupid? We usually say at least 3 things that we are grateful for every night when we go to bed. You are definitely going to beat this disease. There are very few on this forum that is at your level at analyzing illness and trying different things to get better.
Posted 3/11/2022 1:00 AM (GMT 0)
This conversation has been tremendously helpful to me as I navigate Lyme, mold exposure and intense stress associated with having to get legal representation in response to being targeted at work (it's over now, I retired early after the matter was settled). Anyway, everything got worse when I had heightened stress with extended family issues, physical symptoms of Lyme (head pressure, chest pressure, myalgias, sensory regulation etc, etc.) and intense work stress. Now that I am retired, I get stressed so easily and my functional doc has diagnosed me with dysautonomia. After reading your convo, I get it now! Currently, cranio-sacral is helping and I'm going to start DNRS. I get IV's with glutathione and neuromuscular dentistry for TMD. I just had testing for mycotoxins through Vibrant Labs-waiting on results. My worst symptom is ear and head pressure/inflammation. 20 minutes of centering prayer meditation has been hugely helpful to me through the years, as well as earthing, daily nature therapy. Going to start rebounding to get lymph moving.

How are you both doing Deep_sleep and dcd2103?

Post Edited (LindyGirl) : 3/10/2022 6:09:20 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 3/11/2022 2:05 PM (GMT 0)
That is great LindyGirl 😊I hope DNRS helps you a lot, it can be tricky to keep up the practice but very helpful.

It's going well for me, but it's pretty stressful with maybe starting a job related to my studies very soon. Had my first mountain bike session for the year this week and I went for a long forest walk today. I really look forward to more earthing and time in the sun now when it's getting warmer.
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