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Posted 6/19/2022 5:17 PM (GMT 0)
We are seeing a new LLMD who is testing both our adrenals, since we seem unable to tolerate treatment.
Besides the cost for testing, my husband is not looking forward to cutting caffeine. He drinks 2 cups of coffee a day, as it's one of the few things he can enjoy.
I've seen adrenals being continuously referenced as an important part of healing and wanted to know how they provide support, so I can encourage my husband to do this.
Posted 6/19/2022 9:35 PM (GMT 0)

Canary63 said...
We are seeing a new LLMD who is testing both our adrenals, since we seem unable to tolerate treatment.
Besides the cost for testing, my husband is not looking forward to cutting caffeine. He drinks 2 cups of coffee a day, as it's one of the few things he can enjoy.
I've seen adrenals being continuously referenced as an important part of healing and wanted to know how they provide support, so I can encourage my husband to do this.

I drink tea - never gave it up.
Although tea has less than the coffee.
Do you think he needs to give up the two cups?
What if he just has one cup a day?
Posted 6/20/2022 6:17 PM (GMT 0)
Speaking for what perspective I’ve developed on my journey..

Cutting it out isn’t a must, if one feels better without - great. If no benefits are noticed or even one feels worse.. there’s nothing wrong with consuming moderate amounts. This is all things, sugar carbs etc..

If one decides to cut it out long term, stick to that to allow adrenals to balance.(no every 3rd day cup or whatnot)

If one feels better with caffeine - I find my first cup of the day to be best when routine. Same time roughly in the morning to start up adrenals etc.

Dr. Myhill’s work in CFS talks about caffeine increasing the bodies ability to recycle energy back to ATP (I can’t remember the specifics), but meaning there’s more going on than just adrenals for energy. In my experience this is accurate, I may have a few sips of the morning coffee into my afternoon/mid day (as needed) or a glass of iced tea, sometimes a post crash edge curb too if you will.

Ashwagandha has also been immensely helpful in areas that I look to caffeine to help.
Posted 6/21/2022 7:00 PM (GMT 0)
Im a perfect example, but we are all a little different.

My adrenals are "edgy". You either know and feel this...or you dont. I can go from a "couch slug" to "superman" in a split second, this is not normal for the general population LOL. (It was good for sports, but nothing else.)

Caffine gives me the jitters, sometimes sweats, and then a caffeine crash a couple hrs later. No thanks.

Caffine can also increase blood sugar by over-energizing the adrenals (cortisol is the signal for sugar release into the blood). My A1c increases from caffeine in the past over a few months.

But.....Very small amounts of only a few select energy drinks (some have adaptogens in them) are all that I need if im super tired. these are not the sugar and caffine loaded brands- ive read many lables. there is a difference. No this will not kill me depite what some seam to think (ha ha).

I also use holy basil as a calm adaptogen.

Adrenals work with the thyroid as a team. One problem can lead to the other- goes both ways.

Post Edited (astroman) : 6/21/2022 1:06:52 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/22/2022 4:41 PM (GMT 0)
"Why are our adrenals important during treatment?" - It's because our adrenals are vital to our survival. If the adrenals fail, the body fails. I had serious adrenal issues for a while (thyroid as well) when I had these infections. https://www.dummies.com/article/body-mind-spirit/physical-health-well-being/diseases/adrenal-fatigue/basics-of-adrenal-gland-hormone-production-154639/ The information on this page is very basic, but it might help someone!

The question about coffee depends on how his adrenals are doing. I now drink those precious 2 cups of coffee (I haven't gotten brave enough to use "full caff" coffee, only half-caff though). It IS a wonderful thing!! But, if your adrenals are struggling, then by drinking coffee (or anything with caffeine -black tea, green tea, hot chocolate, etc.), your adrenals get more stressed and won't heal. That's the opposite of what we need, generally.

And it's generally not a 'forever thing' - he can go back to his coffee after he heals his adrenals, if that's what he needs.
Posted 6/23/2022 5:09 PM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...
"Why are our adrenals important during treatment?" - It's because our adrenals are vital to our survival. If the adrenals fail, the body fails. I had serious adrenal issues for a while (thyroid as well) when I had these infections. https://www.dummies.com/article/body-mind-spirit/physical-health-well-being/diseases/adrenal-fatigue/basics-of-adrenal-gland-hormone-production-154639/ The information on this page is very basic, but it might help someone!

The question about coffee depends on how his adrenals are doing. I now drink those precious 2 cups of coffee (I haven't gotten brave enough to use "full caff" coffee, only half-caff though). It IS a wonderful thing!! But, if your adrenals are struggling, then by drinking coffee (or anything with caffeine -black tea, green tea, hot chocolate, etc.), your adrenals get more stressed and won't heal. That's the opposite of what we need, generally.

And it's generally not a 'forever thing' - he can go back to his coffee after he heals his adrenals, if that's what he needs.

Thank you for that link! That was actually very helpful to get an digestible amount of information. It's astounding how much of the body is regulated by adrenals.
Posted 6/23/2022 5:27 PM (GMT 0)

loski01 said...
Speaking for what perspective I’ve developed on my journey..

Cutting it out isn’t a must, if one feels better without - great. If no benefits are noticed or even one feels worse.. there’s nothing wrong with consuming moderate amounts. This is all things, sugar carbs etc..

If one decides to cut it out long term, stick to that to allow adrenals to balance.(no every 3rd day cup or whatnot)

If one feels better with caffeine - I find my first cup of the day to be best when routine. Same time roughly in the morning to start up adrenals etc.

Dr. Myhill’s work in CFS talks about caffeine increasing the bodies ability to recycle energy back to ATP (I can’t remember the specifics), but meaning there’s more going on than just adrenals for energy. In my experience this is accurate, I may have a few sips of the morning coffee into my afternoon/mid day (as needed) or a glass of iced tea, sometimes a post crash edge curb too if you will.

Ashwagandha has also been immensely helpful in areas that I look to caffeine to help.

This is helpful to hear. I'm one of those highly sensitive caffeine people so any amount has high jittery potential for me. However, he doesn't seem to respond that way and his caffeine intake is usually done by 10 am.
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