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Posted 3/18/2023 5:16 PM (GMT 0)
I’m currently on Bartonella antibiotic protocol - Rifampicin, Azithromycin and Doxycyline.

I’d like to add L-Arginine as it seems pretty good to deal with Bartonella side effects - Stephen Buhner and few studies are reccomending it, fex:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18595894/


However I’m aware if it’ll not limit ability to kill this germ? As it’s ,,supressing” Bartonella, and I once read that antibiotics can kill bacteria only in growing phrase.

I don’t want to ask my LLMD as he don’t likes when his patients are adding supplements on their own. And those kinds of things are pretty new, and most doctors don’t use it.

So my main question is: Will L-Arginine help and not limit antibiotics effectiveness to kill Bartonella?
Posted 3/18/2023 5:41 PM (GMT 0)
i take L-arginine also - 2g 2x a day - in line with Buhner's recommendation

i do not believe it interacts with antibiotics effectiveness in any way and should work complementarily

other adjuncts that have good evidence behind them for bartonella are
-fibrinolytic agents = bromelain, nattokinase, lumbrokinase etc
( bartonella causes and hides in excess fibrin )
-essential oils - particularly oregano, cinnamon and clove ( see Johns Hopkins studies)
Posted 4/11/2023 6:00 PM (GMT 0)
What about the risk of viral reactivation from latent viruses? It's what stopping me from taking it. Maybe I'm being too cautious?
Posted 4/11/2023 6:16 PM (GMT 0)
i dont remember the exact details - but wasn't the risk with reactivating viruses - only if you already suffer from those - eg re-occurrent herpes or shingles?
Posted 4/11/2023 6:18 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah, exactly. I had shingles in 2008. Never had it since then but still unsure about L-arginine.

Anyway, not to hijack this topic so I'm gonna say that since Buhner recommends it should be fine to take with (herbal) antibiotics.
Posted 4/11/2023 11:30 PM (GMT 0)
I’ve had shingles twice and won’t take it for that reason. I couldn’t even take collagen supplements without triggering a shingles flare.

If you have had chickenpox in the past, then you have the varicella virus and can get shingles. If you have genital herpes or cold sores, you will be taking a risk of outbreaks if you take l-arginine.
Posted 4/12/2023 4:04 PM (GMT 0)
yep - if you have already had shingles or re-occurrent herpes then it makes sense

almost everyone has had chickenpox - so we all have that virus inside us for life - but i don't think everyone will get attacks of shingles if they take L-arginine - i haven't for instance - so its just a small subset.

i can understand if people don't want to risk it
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