Convatec pouch

Convatec makes a two piece pouch where the bag attaches to the wafer with an adhesive. The bag just sticks on and peels off to change the bag only. It is much easier to put on and take off than standard systems. Does anybody use this system? Opinion? I had some samples but don't remember how well it worked.

Dan

Yes I use it .I keep trying different brands but i always come back to this one. They have an adjustable moldable skin barrier that custom fits itself to your stoma with no cutting to fit.I take the pouch off in the am when the stoma is inactive and i run a hospital urinal full of water through it into the toilet then i clean the outside of the pouch with sterile wipes and take my shower .Put it back on after i shave . It feels clean.Also you can burp the "air" from it easily. It doesnt often leak, lasts 3 to 4 days

pancake
What is different with your new stoma that it does not work?

I use the "tupperware" type attachment. I don't like how hard you have to press to make the seal. That concerns me.

Dan

Not having to push down was what I really liked about the adhesive system. Ask them for a sample, if it has been awhile, they will likely send you one.

I did try it with this new stoma, but Spartacus is a problem child. Very small, opening at six o'clock position and at skin level so outputs right onto skin. The only thing that has worked for me so far is a deep convexity pouch from Marlen with an extra convexity ring from Hollister behind it (plus paste and a Hollihesive washer). My skin is finally starting to heal! If they make a deep convexity on the convatec, it might work for me, too but since I've only got seven or so weeks left with Spartacus, I'll stick with what is working right now.

As far as not feeling safe with the adhesive coupling, I never had any problems even running 10+ miles at a time in the summer heat. This is the pouch I ran my half marathon in and it worked perfectly.

Only thing that worries me is that mine is high output stoma and would be concerned it wouldn't handle it. Oh, one question are the bags the ones with the roll up clip attached as only use the one with a separate clip. Can't stand the ones with the velcro fastening.

I tried this system and could not get the hang of putting the bag on correctly...

I had totally given up on using other convatecs products due to the pressure I had to place on my stomach to attach the bag to the wafer. I was pretty bummed because I had quite a few convatec bags.

So, I took Rosemary's advice and went and bought some foaming hand soap. I place some of the foam right around the ring on the bag and it slides onto the wafer very easily. I do not have to apply any pressure at all using this method.

Now, I can change the bag everyday if I want to. THANKS ROSEMARY!

Hi Tracy and Blue,

Thank you, thank you. I wish I could take FULL credit for inventing that trick with the hand soap, but my stoma nurse at Lahey taught me that. I too at first tightened my stomach muscles before I learned of the soap trick and the pushing to get the "click" did not hurt so much.

BUT THEN, I calculated, this clicking thing is for life for me. IF I stay OK and nothing happens to me and I go of old age, that could be 30 years of that intense pressure of clicking that thing on. THEN is when I thought of preassembling them and then just pressing it on with the see through bag.

Tracy, Dec. 7 I see my surgeon to see if he thinks I have the beginning of a peristomal hernia. I read on the net that unless it is obvious exam alone cannot determine. I called the radiology dept at lahey and asked what imaging they use to see if one is starting. The tech said ultrasound, CT scan or MRI. I am going to ask which one of these could tell me as I need to know. I did order a custom made Nu-Hope and they are going to put darts up the sides. I also cut a hole in a 4" self adhesive ace bandage and will try it just around the house to see if it gives me some added support. I put nail polish around the hole in the ace that I am going to drop the bag through so it won't run. That trick I got from a 74-year-old ileostomate who has had her ileo since she was 24! She had her peristomal hernia fixed 3 times and it always came back so she just uses the Nu-Hope and hopes for the best. BUT she is 74, I am only 55, you are much younger auuuuugh! None of us should have to be going through all this. But it is as it is. Glad my tips were helpful. Rosemary

Pancake
Like yours, my stoma is usuually retracted. I need to put the wafer on separately to get it centered. Don't always get it right.

Stripey
I agree about the velcro. Tried once. Could not figure how to get it clean. I use ONLY convatec clips.

Rose
I put a little water on the tupperware. Helps a little. Will try soap. I use clear bags. I want to see what's going on in there. Pushing on the tupperware so hard seems like it could promote a hernia.

Dan

esoR
Changed the bag this AM. Tiny bit of soap made all the difference in the world. Won't need the stick on pouches now. I don't like to pre-assemble because my stoma is almost always totally retracted. It is difficult to center the wafer with the bag on. It seems as time goes on my stoma is out less and less.
Doin' fine. Do you see your GI/surgeon regularly? I have not seen anybody in over two years. I am 170 miles from my surgeon and dr. I did visit a surgeon a few months ago just to have someone if I need help. He never even looked. Not really impressed. Probably would go 170 miles......

Dan

Why is the bag coming off from your pants rubbing on it? My pants rub on my bag too and it doesn't pop off. That seems odd, if that just started maybe you have a bad lot of bags or wafers.

Hey Dan

I wear the coloplast sensura two piece. The wafer stays on pretty good, but the bag has fallen off at least three times and they were from differenct lots. It may be my fault but not sure. The two piece is bulky and I would prefer a good one piece. I change the wafer anyway. Thats a good idea. I will call the major manufacturers for samples.

Steve

Bluegrass, I too like the coloplast one piece but the wafer is oval and I have a deep scar down my middle from surgery that prevents me from wearing it. Just wondering does anybody wear their appliance to the side instead of hanging down?

Steve
Let us know what convatec and holllister advise.

Dan