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Posted 9/5/2014 11:02 PM (GMT 0)
     I have an end ileo which never seems to stop pooping. I don't have diarrhea, it is formed (somewhat), but, especially after dinner....poop, poop, poop.  The only time I chance changing my bag is first thing in the morning IF I don't eat or drink past 7 pm the night before.  My husband can't believe I am getting proper nutrients or how I even gain a few pounds.  My blood work is perfect, so I suppose the nutrients get absorbed from the stomach or small intestine?  Just wondering.
Posted 9/6/2014 12:07 AM (GMT 0)
When did you have your surgery. Do you eat a lot of sugary foods? I find that I have a lot of quiet times. Morning is quietest, but if i eat late, quiet time wont start until 9 am or so. However, I do not find any issues with changing when it isnt quiet, other than that I go through a few extra paper towels or wipes that i bunch up/crumple onto the stoma to absorb any output that happens to come out in the minute or so it takes to put it on. I have the stuff all ready to put on. With my two piece system I then take off the paper towel and clip the new pouch on in all of about five seconds, not enough time for anything to happen really. I usually do this while standing, although I recall my stoma nurses having me do it lying down and with a little paper towel tucked around the area.
Posted 9/6/2014 12:30 AM (GMT 0)
I change in the morning too. I usually eat five or six marshmallows with a super hot cup of tea that seems to create a "glue" and nothing comes out during my change!

Has worked for me for two years......some people eat peanut butter and that seems to help.
Posted 9/6/2014 4:01 AM (GMT 0)
I think it could be a few things, depending on your situation. As others asked, when was your surgery? What is your diet like? Laurasmom offered good advice with the peanut butter - I know others suggest marshmallows as well, I just never personally used them.

Are you eating large meals, or grazing throughout the day? Lots of vegetables, sugars, fruits, sauces, dairy, etc? Eating things like potatoes or other thickeners and foods that will slow things down with each meal can help. A banana and oatmeal (and usually something salty like pretzels and chips) for breakfast usually helped me 1. Keep everything thickened for most of the day (I know you said this wasn't an issue) and 2. Slowed things down for most of the afternoon.

Or it could just be you have a naturally fast transit time. Did you have any small bowel removed? Still, you can try playing around with diet, portion sizes, immodium, etc.
Posted 9/6/2014 12:03 PM (GMT 0)
I'm currently only showering when I change my bag 4 times a week, and only risk showering at breakfast time. I have showered twice while he was active in the afternoon and it was not pretty - I won't do that again if I can help it.

He does seem quiet for quite a long time in the mornings, which makes up for him being active most of the night and me waking every hour to check the bag for emptying.
Posted 9/6/2014 2:12 PM (GMT 0)
I must have the worlds slowest transit time, cause my stoma is quiet all day. I empty first thing in the AM- & it's full & sort of ballonish. Then I empty again about 2 hours after I've gotten up, pretty full again. Then- nothing. All day long.... just some liquidy coffee residue. And I'm eating, believe me! Overall I empty about 5 times a day- 2 in the AM, 1-2 thruout the afternoon, then 1 more before bed. Sometimes I worry things are blocked, but no.. it's just long in coming. I change in the AM's- after the first 1 or 2 changes. Never eat anything to slow it down, it rarely outputs during a change. If it does, it's a tiny amount- I just blot it up with some toilet paper & that's it.
Posted 9/6/2014 4:09 PM (GMT 0)
    Thanks.  Sugary...mmmmm...yes...guilty as charged.  I love my lollipop..only one at night.  Sometimes I crave chocolate and have a handful of M & M's.  My operation was June 28, 2010.  I DO have a very fast transit time.  I knew that years ago when first diagnosed with UP and they did that barium test...zippity doo dahed right down the track.

     I will try the marshmallows and or peanut butter.  Thanks again for the responces.

Posted 9/6/2014 4:10 PM (GMT 0)
"Zip pity-do-dahed"! < made me laugh out loud. :-)
Posted 9/9/2014 7:38 PM (GMT 0)
Forgot to mention that popping some immodium about 30 minites before a meal can significantly reduce transit time. I pop 3 thirty minutes before breakfast and that always buys me about 5 hours of complete quiet (I then have up to a few more hours before I "need" to empty for sake of comfort and aesthetics in tighter clothes- and no need at all physiologically). I like that when I go play tennis or bike for a few hours in the morning, knowing i am not going to feel even the slightest bulge for about that long. Without a colon, immodium is a very benign OTc thing to try, and its use is not associated with D or anything nor with any risk of constipation in this usage, but rather is simply a transit time modulator. (Of course, if you ever have blockage issues, dont use it). So if you have transit time issues, you can try a couple immodiums half an hour before each meal say. Up to 8 a day is fine without a colon. Not that having an ostomy requires it-- it's just a way to spread out emptying a bit more and reduce your emptying frequency-- eg if you are 8 times a day due to high transit, this may get you down to 4-5, which of course is much less than the average normie pees oer day anyway.

Post Edited (Probiotic) : 9/9/2014 1:42:17 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/10/2014 6:22 AM (GMT 0)
I take Loperamide (which I think is Immodium) every day to firm up the output - without it, output is generally very watery. A side effect of firming the output is that output is less frequent.
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