leaks through base plate

Hi again.

I am so upset because I was confident until my bags started to leak through the base. It stings and etches. plus the first time it happened was when me and my boyfriend went into pizza hut for a meal. so not fair. I am going to see the stoma nurse on monday am have done some research on what products are out there other than paste. (which is hard for me to get used to, I find I need two pairs of hands.)

But I wonder what helps the best?

tell us what you use and how you do it, so we can trouble shoot

I dont not use a wafer with convexity and the make is coloplast. I make sure the area around the stoma is clean and dry before I put anyting on. Then I put the base plate on. this is all a one piece. The previous bag before the failed bag worked so well so this makes me think that the hole I cut is ok. I did not change the hole size when I put on the failed bag.

I then check for gaps which sometimes appear and other times don't......

I had surgery two months ago.

I find the paste too hard to put on. what are Eakin seals?

thank you for trying to help

I did have some film barrier wipes (lol in a form of a lolly pop) but the hospital only gave me a few. Could I get them at the manufacturers to?

when I place the seals on, do I then put the base plate on top? This sounds promising. I have ordered some samples.

Thank you.

skin prep will actually shorten your wear time, so i dont suggest those.
Only use that if you have a sore or something.

Ohio-what good would it do to put the sure seal UNDER the wafer? the wafer would still get wet, and i wouldnt think it would stick well to that

what is a sure seal.. and how do you put them. on.....what is the difference between that and a eakin seal?

thank you for the advice.

I'm still new at this obviously. Have to try that Eakin seal on skin before wafer next time. Paste doesn't seem quite as strong as Eakin seals? Would you agree or disagree?

Also I have been using skin prep every time since it made my sore skin improve so much. Will have to change that. This was one of those weeks you wish didn't happen. 4 accidents in one week is not my idea of fun. I have decided maybe I have to put my seal on at night so it gives it time to stick before I go swim or run or you know generally abuse it. I don't try to, really, but my life is definitely different, harder,time consuming with this Ostomy.

I am trying to love bubbles and appreciate it's life giving value.

I have tried dermacol collars and they have not worked bacause my stoma is overall. I am using the eakin seals but i still dont feel confindent. is there a chance the seals would spring a leak too? I am so worried not. why wont the leaks stop.

The stoma nurse has mentioned this other type of bag..oh I forgot the name...the base steps out a bit. I feel I am losing options.

yes, I think I will give that a big go. when I look at him- the stoma- he seems to look small..however I gues he does look rather short and stumpy. lol. poor guy or gut..lol. so I hope this works. I shall call the nurses tomorrow.

Thats a great question. I didn't find out till about a month ago. You can definitely use convex bags with a regular stoma. And they work amazingly well by comparison; at least for leaks. My skin is very sensitive though, and I found that the convex bags cut the skin around the stoma, so I had to move away from them unfortunately. Ill tell you, the week or so I wore them, I felt so confident while I was out and about. I remodeled part of my house with not a single leak over several days.

Try them, and if they work, you'll be set. If its like me, and they cut your skin, you can always use a 2 piece flat appliance with belt loops, and use a belt. Thats what I do now.

Also, I use sure seals. I quite using that paste crap about 5 days after I got my stoma.

John

minxycat -

No, convex barriers and rings can be used if your stoma sticks out, too. My stoma stuck out about an inch, but I still had to use a convex barrier and convex ring to prevent leaks due to dips in my skin. I also used OstoBond adhesive on the barrier and my skin, paste and/or a seal in the space around the stoma and the ring, and a Sure Seal over the barrier. I can't say enough good about Sure Seals (learned about them on this site) - they prevented a leak from coming totally out until I could get home to change. Toward the end (I had my takedown in Jan. '10), I also had to take a piece of a seal (like Eakin, but Hollister brand...the name escapes me now) to put in a dip in my skin under the barrier to prevent leaks. My leaks always occurred in the same spot. My WOCN is the one who helped me with all this. Check with yours - they should be able to try samples on you.

Eakin seal are really the best. I have used others like the Hollister adapt ring but that one melts and gets runny and then is useless.

Also, the paste melts and is useless, I have like 8 tubes of it from when I first got the ostomy but it sucked so I never used it.