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Posted 1/29/2011 5:44 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Hodaya,

Wanted to catch your attention!

I got the name of an excellent colorectal surgeon for you in Israel. I got the name from my doc at Lahey who knows colorectal surgeons all over the world.

Yeheil Ziv, M.D.
1, 2280 St
Tel Aviv 69086 Israel
972-3-649-8884

Rosemary
Posted 1/29/2011 6:48 PM (GMT 0)
Rosemary, thanks so much!! yeah i've heard of him. but the question is whether your surgoen assumes dr Ziv will help me with suction, or did he actually confirm this? i mean i could go, but what if he also doesn't cooporates?

in any case thanks SOOOO much for all your and you dr's efforts to help!! it's really appreciated!!
Posted 1/29/2011 10:07 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Hodaya,

I specifically outlined exactly what your issue was. I said that you had no underlying disease (as in no Chrone's, no Colitis, no cancer) but that you had an ileostomy. I then said that you were having trouble getting mucous out of your rectum and were having trouble finding someone willing to suction out the mucous like I have done every few months. The response I got was that this colorectal surgeon in Israel was excellent.

So the response I got did not specifically say that he would suction your mucous out, but it did say positive things.

You could very easily write a short note to this Dr. Ziv and tell him what you are looking for and ask if he would be willing to see if he could do this for you. Or you could call his office, tell them about your situation and ask if he might consider doing it. For all you know, they may say, sure he does it all the time for ostomates.

So if I were you I would contact him and give it a try. I can see why you would not want to travel all the way there only to find he would not do it, but contact him anyway and tell him what's on your mind.

My surgeon who gave me his name is young, vivacious, loves helping people, and I would guess likely associates with other docs of the same mind set. So this Dr. Ziv could be very upbeat and wanting to help too.

Give it a shot then let me know what reaction you get. Make it a goal to do the contact next week. Can't lose anything by trying.

Rosemary
Posted 1/29/2011 10:10 PM (GMT 0)
Hodaya,

Just an after thought, if and when you see this doc or talk with him ahead of time, in all fairness to him, do mention your rectovaginal fistula IF it really is there. I think one of your posts said there was some doubt? Because suction may be harmful in this situation. So do not hide that issue as it would not give him your full picture. Honest Docs (as this one is very likely to be) are like we are, they need all the data so they can make the best decision they can for us. Rosemary
Posted 1/30/2011 9:57 AM (GMT 0)
thanks SO much Rosemary. your help is so appreciated. i will give it a try. i will mention the fistula, but he'll probably won't take me seriously just like my surgeon and CC dr. anyway, as you said, it wouldn't hurt to try. (i'm just kinda embarrased with this issue :/ but i have to give it a try with this dr).

but i have to say, i HAVE been hearing too many stories from too many ppl that this dr is kinda rude and insensitive. so with a sensitive situation like mine, im even more embarrased. but will see.
Posted 1/30/2011 4:41 PM (GMT 0)
Ouuuuu, I see. So, this doc could be a real brain but not sensitive. OK, glad you have the heads up. Too bad brains and personality do not always come together.

Here is a suggestion for strategy then. Best way to deal with this type is to play it all his way. And keep it short.

1. Call his office, briefly explain what you want. Ask what is the best way to ask him if he would be williing to evaluate you for possible rectal mucous suctioning (this way you are not assuming he will do it. Docs like this like that you make no assumptions.)

2. Then do whatever communication the office person on the phone suggests: a return call from him, a fax, an email. Do it whatever way he wants.

3. When you do your communication, make it very brief. This type and most docs like it this way:
a. I have an ileostomy due to pelvic floor dysfunction. I have no underlying crones, no colitis, no cancer.
b. There was question of possible rectovaginal fistula.
c. I have rectal mucous that is trapped, I cannot get it outwith enema's as suggested by my doc, it is very uncomfortable.
d. If I made an appointment with you, would you be willing to consider suctioning out the mucous with a small sigmoidoscope?

Hodaya, this is just a sample of possible wording you could use. BUT, it's short, enumerated, no emotion. These types of docs DO NOT LIKE EMOTION! So glad you mentioned what you had heard about him as now I can guide you. With this enumerated fact method approach, he may just help you out. Do call his office and let me know how they best suggest to get in touch with him.

Rosemary
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