Nutrition and loop stoma?

I often wondered that while I had my loop. Not sure what the answer is.

hey~ this is something i actually know a little something about! i had a loop stoma and yes, food goes through you like you know what through a greased duck, so toss out any ideas of calorie-counting. you are out for nutrition. high protien, low fat foods seem to digest slower, hence you get a bit more nutrition than you will from high fiber veggies. liquid iron will give you more iron than you got from that spinach that left your body faster than greased lightening. just remember: go for the high nutrition, low fat because your liver will store fat and you don't want that. water, water, water will be your best friend-always. dehydration is your enemy and you should avoid it like the plague. i also found that it helps to graze rather than eat three big meals. i ate pretty stready from the time i woke up to the time i went to sleep. half a slice of bread with peanut (i know fat, but good fat) butter with a glass of water and an hour later half a banana and a little later a cup of chicken noodle soup then half a tuna sandwich then a boiled egg...see a pattern? low fat, low fiber, high protien.

i'm a horrible speller, but you get what i mean. hope this helps

This is really important info, Nena, because when we have a loop we've got it for 3 months or so, maybe longer by some people. I will get some liquid iron today. And yeah, I agree, dehydration is the full-out baddie in the whole story and that's why I'm taking immodium and eating psyllium husk, in addition to drinking lots of tea. Please don't tell me it has to be plain water.
I am cooking a lot with boneless, skinless chicken breast (w/ tamari, ginger and peanut butter, yeah pb rocks!) yoghurt, eating cream of wheat right now, sometimes cooked carrot, fish, rice and rice and rice ...
When you say don't count calories, do you mean we are not taking them up, that if we eat more than we burn, we will not gain weight, or do you mean, just forgot the whole subject of losing and gaining?

No, not too much info!
I didn't have any of my small intestine removed. The surgeon meant the length of intestine right now between my loop stoma and my jpouch (there is at present no transit between stoma and jpouch because the food does not go any further than the stoma point) is 50 cm. These 50 cm come back into play after take-down, because there is no longer the redirction out through the stoma. But all he said is that things are going to happen faster.
I am very glad to read that I got something out of that spinach! I'm still going to get some liquid iron though! It's strange, after years of making sure I eat lots of vegetables every day, and of considering salad my base, that I'm mostly avoiding them unless they are very well cooked.

Unless your terminal ileum is damaged, you should be absorbing all nutrients. Time isn't what's critical in absorption, the body is fantastic at grabbing nutrients even when food is racing through you. Some foods you will see coming out whole, even with jpouch. Even in coloned people spinach and lettuce comes out intact, it's just that in compacted feces it's not seen. Just because it looks the same coming out as going in, does not mean you didn't digest the nutrients.

Sue

Ric, thick poo with a loop is unusual, most of us have liquidy poos (btw this is hilarious because I've got a second laptop on my desk right now, and am writing emails back and forth with my boss at the same time, so I better keep things straight here :_))))
My output will just pour out of the bag, unless I eat psyllium husk, then it's thick and really holds together. Good to keep in mind for after take-down. Just be glad you're not dehydrating. Just because you have thick output doesn't mean anything weird.

All I know is that I lost 10 kilos in the hospital and gained back one or two or three after getting home, because I started eating decent food at all. But I have kept 7-8 kilos off. It would be hard for me to eat a whole lot at once, although my apetite has returned in the last 2 weeks. I have the feeling that I could gain weight if I am not careful, because I've always been like that, so I don't want to experiment around. The other day after work I got this craving I never get for Burger King or Macdonalds, but when I looked at it in the train station, I just couldn't do the deed. I did take myself to my favorite Italian place and had fettucine with salmon. It was my first pasta since surgery but it did nothing to thicken my output.

I don't know why you didn't gain any weight. Maybe when you're in a state of mind, a racy one because you're living in anticipation of take-down, and your system is working at higher speed so your metabolism cranked itself up a bit.

I still haven't found the Hübner iron liquid supplement but I know it's out there. Not in my drug store, and not in organic stores, I think I have to hit the right drug store chain. It sounds better than some other products. Aside from that, Sue the moderator assures us that our small intestine works real fast and gets a lot out of what we eat.

You've got exactly 2 weeks now, right?

Laughing at the thought of that email to the boss..... then imagining it as some weird spy code, as in "my poop is thick today" is the secret phrase...

B'Dereh I was single for ten years, mostly by choice, before I met my partner (when I was ready, and also OK with being single forever, if need be).... totally different than any relationship I had before. There was some luck involved, but mostly we were at the places in our lives when we were ready, knew who we were and what we would/wouldn't put up with, and could be very intentional about what we were creating together.

It's really wonderful when people meet the love of their lives when they are young and then grow up together.... but there's also something to be said for being older and having had time to separately become yourselves first.... lots of ways for things to work out....

B'Dereh, yeah thanks it seems to be going ok so far, she seems nice and we get on. Just taking slowly for a number of reasons obviously. I'm starting to feel like a normal person again, instead of damaged goods and that's the best bit. I definitely can relate to you feeling the same. But I'm so happy with the minimal scarring it's left. I wouldn't be as bothered if I were older and married but I'm young and single, so to me it is a big deal.

The fact I've also got take down coming up has probably helped my confidence/mindset as well. I know there could be complications, but I'm not even thinking about them...cross those bridges if I come to them.

It sounds like you've had a hard time with everything you've been through. I think your confidence will grow lots once you have your takedown. You'll start to remember a time when you didn't have to think how you were different from everyone else. You sound very positive in your posts and you've got a great outlook on things. Things will get better for you, you've done nearly a year and managed it! You're almost out of the woods, hang in there!!