Is Ileostomy Reversal better than the Bag?
Ileostomy Reversal - 66.7% - 2 votes
Stick with Ileostomy Bag for life - 33.3% - 1 votes
Colon transplant - 0.0% - 0 votes
genetically grow a colon for transplant? - 0.0% - 0 votes
any other ideas? - 0.0% - 0 votes
Posted 1/4/2014 10:07 PM (GMT 0)
I recently suffered a plugged colon that infected and was removed. All due to malpractice, that almost killed me. To save me, I lost my colon. I am a very active 48 year old and am hating the bag BS.
Has anyone had a reversal, that is in better shape than having a bag? I get nothing but warnings about "having the runs the rest of your life ten times a day...". Is this true? It may still be better than having to empty the nasty bag fifteen times a day and the gluing of it all sucks no matter who you are.
I look forward to a transplanted colon if possible. I am born immune deficient with Common Variable hypo gamma globulin emia and am hoping my weak immune system may take the transplant. Does anyone have experience with this?
If not a new Colon, then what is the reversal life like with out a colon?
Posted 1/5/2014 12:23 AM (GMT 0)
I don't think a transplant is approved but a j-pouch is. You should do some research on j-pouch. I have never heard you go 10x with runs all the time, I've heard you go more often than normal but you can hold it and it's quick compared to going with a colon. Please don't lose hope, there are probably options for you. If you are stuck with a bag, there are probably ways to improve your process/supplies so you can live more comfortably as well. We have members who don't mind having a bag at all and I am sure some of them can provide you good advice.
Posted 1/5/2014 1:43 AM (GMT 0)
I have never heard of a colon transplant being done. I think the main reason is because a colon is not essential to life and, for people with IBD, the disease would just come back and attack the transplanted colon in all probability (I'd take that chance!). You would also have to be on strong anti-rejection meds for the rest of your life; we take some of those same meds for IBD (albeit at a lower dosage) and, believe me, they are not a walk in the park.
Personally, I would go for the j-pouch or ileorectal anastomosis. Probably the latter is the better choice, since you get to keep your original rectum rather than making a makeshift one out of the end of your small bowel - but this would be something to discuss with a competent colorectal surgeon.
I would have a reversal tomorrow if I could. I'm afraid I'm not one of those members who don't mind having a bag.
suebear
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Posted 1/5/2014 1:53 AM (GMT 0)
No such thing as a colon transplant and probably won't ever been one since there are perfectly good alternatives. Also, a transplant of any kind leaves you with taking immunosuppressants and steroids for life. A person with your medical history probably should not consider taking these drugs for life. I've had a jpouch for 13 years; I'm physically active, do 100-200 mile thru hikes, partake in a lot of international travel to 3rd countries, and basically have a full live. I eat what I want and take no meds. There is also the k-pouch surgery as an alternative to a permanent ostomy. You can google that to get more information.
Sue
Posted 1/5/2014 2:20 AM (GMT 0)
There is no good alternative for me.
I would have a colon transplant. If I was prepared to be on the immunesuppressants for Crohn's, I'd be prepared to be on them to have a bag-free life.
ByeByeUC
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Posted 1/5/2014 3:24 AM (GMT 0)
Believe me NCOT, you wouldn't want to be on organ anti rejection drugs even if there were such a thing as a colon transplant. I was on cyclosporine for a while (which they use for organ transplant patients) as a desperate UC treatment. That was the nastiest drug out of everything I have ever taken. Just absolutley awful. I didn't like having the ileostomy but I would gladly live with it again over going back to those horrible drugs.
Probiotic
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Posted 1/5/2014 3:45 AM (GMT 0)
You are emptying your external pouch 15x a day? What is the output in ml? Is it largely liquid? Sounds like you have an extremely high output issue going on. With a jpouch you'd likely be going whatever frequency you are having now with an external pouch, so you need answers as to why you have such high, liquidy output. If you just recently had surgery, high output is normal for a few weeks but settles down rapidly.
summerstorm
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Posted 1/5/2014 3:48 AM (GMT 0)
I agree about those drugs. I haven't been on them but I worked with a man who ended up on them after a kidney transplant. He had to have his knees replaced at 30 because they did so much damage. He had to quit work after the transplant because of those drugs. He worked before that!
I think there was a transplant done but it failed. It's a really big organ also which I'm are makes it harder.
I am a member who doesn't mind having a bag. As a general rule I like it. You shouldn't be having to empty it but about 6 or so times a day. I guess by gluing you mean changing the whole system that's not my favorite thing but it's only once a week and takes about 10 minutes. At first it was horribly disgusting but I got used to it.
There is no reason having a bag should keep you from being active. Providing you are cleared by your doctor you can do anything you want.
Posted 1/5/2014 2:04 PM (GMT 0)
Well, I never tried cyclosporin (wish I had now, because I have heard of it saving one or two people from sugery on these forums). Obviously, being on immunesuppressants for life is not the ideal, but I would have done the same thing for Crohn's and could end up back on those meds again anyway. I know an organ transplant is absolutely not a walk in the park, but I would be very strongly considering one if colon transplants were available. I'd probably take the chance, tbh.
sadlers8
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Posted 1/11/2014 9:45 AM (GMT 0)
I have an ileostomy and am going to talk about reversal on tuesday. Sometimes the bag freaks me out. Am ok during the day but nights are the worst. I get anxious and tired and don't get much sleep. Hate the smell and the whole idea of waste coming out of my stomach and want to be normal again. Is this common to feel like this? I want to enjoy eating but after it bothers me to deal with pouch etc so bummed out. I got it in Oct now it is Jan. Just want my life back again. Was down to 118lbs and now am 125 feeling stronger. Doing more going upstairs etc, taking a shower, eating,or trying to but some things bother me. Family and friends great but this has been a long haul for me. My colon was perforated and they had to do emergency surgery. Came home with the bag and now want the reversal but hope I can go through it ok. thanks for listening.