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divo
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Posted 6/12/2014 2:00 PM (GMT 0)
I am wondering if the horrible ballooning at night, and the consequential blowouts, (horrible mess) are a result of the C-Pap machine, and swallowing air? Has anyone heard of this? Di
ks1905
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Posted 6/12/2014 3:53 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting, can he try sleeping without it for a night or two?
Your ostomy supplier (who sends you the supplies, not the manufacture) may have some aftermarket products could help with the ballooning.
PoucherInTO
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Posted 6/12/2014 5:42 PM (GMT 0)
Absolutely! CPAP and BiPAP machines push air into the oral cavity, some goes into the lungs (as is the intention of the therapy) and some goes into the mouth (nothing you can do about
this, it's inevitable).
Is the mask a nasal mask, or a full face mask that covers both the mouth and nose? A nasal mask that fits well would be the best option in reducing gas, and as well make sure you are followed closely in a sleep lab to make sure your pressures aren't any higher than need be for the desired result.
Higher pressures = more air going into your stomach = more gas. But, the most important thing is that you are getting enough pressure to reach a therapeutic level.
divo
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Posted 6/12/2014 5:48 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you…It is a nasal mask, but he is also a mouth breather at times. I hear him with a little snoring even with the mask.
I will have to examine this whole thing. I had to think of this myself. No doctor or nurse or company that is the provider of the pouches said anything, when I was talking about
the bad ballooning. Maybe, now we can get to the bottom of this…(no pun!)
PoucherInTO
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Posted 6/12/2014 5:54 PM (GMT 0)
To explain just how much gas can be created (and explain the ballooning) with CPAP, some of our CPAP patients have GTubes (tubes that go into the stomach if they can't feed orally for one reason or another) and when they use their CPAP machines (at night or for daytime naps), they
open their GTubes to allow the gas to vent out of their stomachs - so yes, good detective work on your part! If they didn't
open their tubes to vent many get very distended and crampy stomachs.
The best suggestion I can give you is to maybe add an extra filter to the bag, like the osto-ez-vent. They will send you samples for free and your husband can quickly
open the filter to let the gas out of his bags.
ks1905
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Posted 6/12/2014 6:56 PM (GMT 0)
If it is really bad then maybe you get the insurance company to pay for an additional bag like they use in the hospitals.
When I was in the hospital they would attach a Foley to my high-output bag and the Foley would be attached to a bag hanging from my bed or on the floor. They wouldn't have to wake me to empty my bag at night.
I talked to my insurance company and they said that they only pay for those for urostomy patients.
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