Basic overview of Penile Injection Process

Highwayman, the shots (usually) result in a completely natural erection- warm, firm, definitely no hinge effect. Actually, maybe even better than natural, as you may have something firmer and longer lasting than you did since your 20's. How' that for motivation?

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Cb, sorry you are still having problems. I suppose that until you find your happy best case dose, you can keep increasing the amount. However, once you do reach it, you shouldn't need to increase, if anything, you will be able to decrease, if your experience is like the other guys. A rubber band will do fine. It should be tight enough to hold the blood in the penis without any leaking out. Note the word 'any'. If it is still slowly leaking out, then the drug is still being lost. Practice with the bands before injecting to find what it takes to keep the penis at a 1/3 or so, semi-erect stage for 3 to 5 minutes. If you find the amount of tightness with the bands to hold that partial erection, then you have found the amount of restriction you need. If so, then proceed with the injection. Remember, you can use the bands to hold either a partial (for injections) or full (for attempted intercourse) for up to 30 minutes before the band must be removed. So, there's no rush to get there. Practice with the bands then practice with the injection.

Questions: When you are partially erect and the bands on,
1. Do you still lose the erections- even if slowly?
2. When partially erect, can you 'feel' the needle 'drop into' or feel less resistance, indicating you have gotten the tip into the penis cavernous cavity, which is where the drug needs to go? Most people will feel a definite drop off of resistance when the needle gets there. Going further than that increases the chances of passing thru the other side of the cavity and on into the cartlidge and muscle in the center of the penis.

Just asking, as you seem to be having trouble in placing the dose in the right place, if you are still having to increase the amount of the drug.

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NolaVette: I honestly can't recall what the dosage was, I do know it was 40mcg strength and am sure it was above .3ml or 30 units. The dosage using the Caverject Impulse was all or nothing, if I remember right. Sprry, wish I could help you more. If you have a syringe that will allow you to set your own dosage, by pulling up a certain amount, rather than it being a dial it and inject system, then I personally would start low and work my way up. By low, if it were me, I would start with maybe .10 or 10 units on the syringe. Don't expect full success the first time, it will take a while, most likely, to find what is the best dose for you. Good luck. Also, have some Sudafed on hand, not the Sudafed PE, but the original 'good' stuff.

Clocknut, what do you do with it? Well, after a few months (or years) of impotence, I'd recommend that you just admire it, after use, maybe even make a drawing or even a photo of it. LOL One thing you don't want to do, after you are done with it, is to continue stimulating it, as it will spring right back to life and then you got to start all over in getting a decline started again. As far as orgasm's and how they feel, there is a difference, for me, in that, but it's tough to describe, other than to say different but satisfying. The whole organ and the 'feel' is different, if you have a really good stick, then it will remind you of how you felt at 15 when it seemed you could drive nails, and even with the probably forgotten ache that accompanied it, way back then. And that feel good feeling will last for several days after. Just me, I'm saying, not for everyone else, of course.

James,

I wish I had seen the positive stuff here on injection therapy when you first posted this. I resisted because of the unnaturalness of sticking a needle in there and only relented after 3 years of on and off and unsuccessful use of Viagra and Co. My change of heart was based on my discouragement of ever being able to have an erection again and the possibility held out by the therapist that injections "might" aid recovery of the organ and it's nerves.

Well I can say that although I have only injected 16 times, first 5 Bimix, the rest Trimix, that the regeneration process does appear to be gradually but noticeably taking place. It took 3 or 4 shots of Trimix to get fairly close to the right dose though there is a little inconsistency. The last shot was weak as I think leaving the ready-mixed shot in a chiller bag for too long resulted in it going off. However the process, while a bit awkward, and I do get the trembles a little, is almost totally painless. The pain in the shaft which used to accompany erections seems to have diminished, or else I have got used to it. If anything it is a nice reminder of what's hard down there!

With passing time and experience I seem to be able to stimulate a better semi-erection without the shot and I am thinking of going back and trying Viagra and Cialis again which used to be good for at best 80% (not quite sufficient). Dr Mulhall's video online was a help and encouragement and in spite of being 40 months out from surgery, things have progressed better in the ED area than in any other period. My encouragement is "don't give up if you can feel anything there".

Fred, I wouldn't be too concerned about the bruising at the injecting site, I have had that several times. It fades very quickly, usually 24-36 hours. I hope to get better and more accurate with the shots and hopefully avoid the nasties of scarring, fibrosis, Peyronies etc. Thanks to everyone here for being encouragers and supporters.

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Been a while, so time to bring it back up to the top, just in case, considering a couple threads now active.

Terry,

I started a new thread for you to get more attention to your question. Here it is:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=2682866

Welcome to the forum.

Still searching for the right dose of Trimix and rings and such. Recommended starting dose was 0.2 ml, but due to my fear of the 4 hour problem, I started much lower. Shooting just for a circulation boost for rehab at 1st, I got some impressive results with less than 1/2 the recommended dose and thought I was going to have it made. Even the lower doses seemed like they might be enough for penetration, plus plenty of warm blooded circulation, not to mention ache. Got an Actis type ring to hopefully prevent urine escape ( I am about 2 months 3 weeks since catheter removal and still fairly incontinent but improving slowly). So got up to 1.2 ml and gave it a go, but lost adequate firmness when I laid down. Tried 1.4, I think the injection was a slight miss, got only a minimal response.

Then last night went for it with full dose 0.2 ml, seemed like a perfect injection with good blood return and zero injection resistance. To my surprise it never got quite as firm as it had at lower doses, barely managed to penetrate even with me standing up. Stopped after a couple of minutes as I have read that a suspected cause of PD is the trauma caused by trying to go at it with inadequate response. sigh. Maybe I will go up above .2 next try. I have not had any Cialis in about a week, I'm just out and trying to get my insurance to pay some so I've been holding off a bit. Could that have decreased my response? ( I was most likely non-nerve sparing)

Will rings help with the loss of erection(even after injection) after laying down? I can see that it won't take much tightness of the Actis to help with the urine problem. But how tight should it be for the purpose of helping erections after injections and laying down? Do I need something as tight as a pump ring?

Plus, in the OP of this great thread a pump/ring for 1/3 erection prior to injection technique is described. Can I use one of those rings ( for < than 30 mins, or more likely for < 15) that came with my Augusta pump after full response to injection has been achieved? Safe? Helpful, especially for laying down? Or should I just be looking more to find a high enough dose to get firm enough and keep it after laying down? ( prior to surgery had no problems after laying down with Cialis aided erections )

Is this enough questions?

Lastly, I've got to get some Bimix for less ache, hope it works at least as good.

James C. said...
BillyBob, you asked:

"Can I use one of those rings ( for < than 30 mins, or more likely for < 15) that came with my Augusta pump after full response to injection has been achieved? Safe? Helpful, especially for laying down? Or should I just be looking more to find a high enough dose to get firm enough and keep it after laying down? ( prior to surgery had no problems after laying down with Cialis aided erections ) "

Good question and one I don't have an answer for. I was wondering the same thing while re-reading this thread. My first impulse is to say no, it isn't safe to do so, as you may cause damage to the already engorged and erect organ. I am interested in the Actis band, though, and will look up some more about it. It seems to be the safer alternative to using a full strength penis ring, which can grip very tight. Maybe others can share their experience or thoughts.

BTW, the Actis venous leak ring specifically states it can be used with injections as well as pills. There has not been any response to my question about rings + injection, so I guess no one is doing that? Is no one else loosing the erection when laying down? I guess on my next try, I should just go up above the .2 ml dose Trimix if I have not been getting a good enough response?

PeterDisAbelard. said...
Billy Bob Bill,

Actually, losing your erection when lying down is a fairly common complaint among injectors here. It's caused a venous leak and one of the looser rings like your Actis might well help.

Thx Peter. I guess the venous leak problem is not helped or related to Trimix dose?