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Posted 3/12/2012 9:19 PM (GMT 0)
http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/12/10654477-daily-serving-of-red-meat-raises-risk-of-cancer-heart-disease

I don't say I agree or disagree, just posting the article

Posted 3/12/2012 10:59 PM (GMT 0)
These reports always gets me playing "Everything gives you cancer" by Joe Jackson. I'm becoming more convinced it's like 85% genetic
Posted 3/12/2012 11:45 PM (GMT 0)
I fully agree with you Ziggy. I have had access to several good oncologists over the years, with my multiple cancers, and they all feel that it is mostly a genetic thing.

david
Posted 3/13/2012 1:38 AM (GMT 0)
I'm far from the expert but I for one think that all the crap that's injected and processed into our food along with the long hours and can be stressful lives we live contribute greatly to cancer. Cancer doesn't run in my family but heart attacks do??? I still eat meat in moderation and chicken and fish but what I've read about it does make since.
Posted 3/13/2012 2:00 AM (GMT 0)
I've cut back my red meat intake to just once or twice a week. Not because I fear cancer but because it aggravates my gout. I swear I eat a steak and my foot starts to swell up before I've finished cooking the thing...
Posted 3/13/2012 2:02 AM (GMT 0)
I for one and probably the only one, have given up on meat. This I started the first of this year after considerable thought. The whole method of raising livestock and all the crap that is fed and injected into the animal is frightening.

Don't misunderstand, I love a good burger or steak. As an avid gym rat I believed that meat was needed for strength. Wrong! My endurance and strength is much improved since my diet changed.

If any of you have time, rent the movie "Forks over Knives." This movie changed me and many of my friends dietary habits overnight.

A dietician visited our Wellness Center and pretty much said the same thing. Give up the meats, have some fish, and eat your veggies. Eat to live and not live to eat. Time will tell.

 

Posted 3/13/2012 2:27 AM (GMT 0)
I am glad you posted this report.  I read it earlier and have seen many more studies blaming red meat for our physical downfall.  I am sure the basic premise is true.  Men who eat lots of red meat are more prone to statistically earlier death. They don't tell us if the man was overweight, or had high blood pressure or cholesterol.

I was aware of that 50 years ago, when my father suffered his first major heart attack.  His physician told us (his family) that eating red meat and fried foods and smoking and ....on and on... were the cause.  He was right.

During my lifetime, I corrected some of the issues that prematurely killed my father.  I also dramatically reduced my blood pressure, and my cholesterol using prescription drugs. At this point I have outlived him by over a decade.  I expect to live at least another 20 years....unless cancer kills me.

Posted 3/13/2012 2:43 AM (GMT 0)
I didn't see anything new in this article that hasn't been posted repeatedly here at HW before...did I miss something?

The conclusion was a little more "in your face" than previous reports, but I guess they are trying a bit more aggressively to get people to get their heads out of the sand:

Those conclusions, the product of decades of many big research projects, will likely stand for a long time. So, we know what a healthy diet is. The question is: Will our taste buds and will power allow us to stay with it?
Posted 3/13/2012 10:44 AM (GMT 0)

Sparkit said...
I for one and probably the only one, have given up on meat. This I started the first of this year after considerable thought. The whole method of raising livestock and all the crap that is fed and injected into the animal is frightening. Don't misunderstand, I love a good burger or steak. As an avid gym rat I believed that meat was needed for strength. Wrong! My endurance and strength is much improved since my diet changed.
If any of you have time, rent the movie "Forks over Knives." This movie changed me and many of my friends dietary habits overnight.
A dietician visited our Wellness Center and pretty much said the same thing. Give up the meats, have some fish, and eat your veggies. Eat to live and not live to eat. Time will tell.

I've also pretty well given up meat. I have fish once or twice a week and a little chicken or turkey a couple of times a year. I've been surprised at how little I miss it because I also used to love my burgers and prime rib. For most people though, I don't know that it has to be an all or nothing proposition. They could probably achieve some benefit by replacing some meat consumption with fish or vegetable protein.
Posted 3/13/2012 11:33 AM (GMT 0)
Every time a lab rat dies somewhere we lose something good to eat. eyes

I have cut down my red meat consumption to once or less a week just because I always feel bloated after eating a steak. My wife enjoys a good steak so I will cook a chicken breast for me and a steak for her.  The other day I noticed that beef is now more expensive than a good seafood like Salmon, shrimp or Tilapia, so we eat more fish. I do love lamb chops so I wonder if this is as bad as beef? I also have a combined cholesterol of 160 which is great for my age. The nuclear heart stress test I had the week before my RALP last May showed I had no plaque in my arteries and no sign of heart disease so I have been eating right.

Terry

Posted 3/13/2012 2:07 PM (GMT 0)
that's great you posted it here. I think nowadays everything gives us cancer.
Posted 3/13/2012 2:13 PM (GMT 0)
Now I will give my take on the article:

1. No, there is nothing new here, not really, just a different emphathis

2. I still follow the advice of my oncology dieticians, I eat according to the new food pyramid, and eat all things in moderation. By nature, we don't eat a lot of red meat anyway. Perhaps once of twice a week. And when we do, for example, we will buy an 8 oz steak, and share it. I dont see how some folks can eat a 12-16 oz steak all by themselves. If we use ground beef, it's either ground sirloin, or the kind you can buy that is 96% lean. I feel no guilt in either. We eat far more fish, chicken, and lean cuts of pork over beef. I love eggs, but over the years, went from 2-3 per day (honestly) to 2-3 per week, again, no guilt with that.

david
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