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Posted 1/22/2016 11:10 PM (GMT 0)
Hi it's Tim again,
As some of you know, I had a self diagnosed prostate infection in Sept. Really bad smelling urine, urgency, fever, chills etc... I never went to the dr for it. In early Dec I had the urgency again and slow start. Since that time I have felt better. I went to have a physical last Tues and my PSA was 5.4 and referred to urologist this coming Tues.
Has anyone else heard of this type of situation and does it sound like infection rather than PC?
Just worried out of my mind.
I'm sorry if this is a redundant question.
Posted 1/23/2016 12:16 AM (GMT 0)
Hello Tim,

Welcome back.

Did we mention last time that men with troublesome urinary track symptoms seldom turn out to have prostate cancer? Or at least their symptoms are almost always caused by something else. Prostate cancer is a slow-growing disease that seldom causes any symptoms at all until it is quite advanced and even then it seldom causes the sort of problems you would expect from your prostate. It causes bone pain in other parts of the body -- ribs, spine, hip, etc..

Of course it is possible to have prostate cancer and a prostate infection but, given your tender age you are much less likely to have prostate cancer than just an infection.
Posted 1/23/2016 12:30 AM (GMT 0)

PeterDisAbelard. said...
Hello Tim,

Welcome back.

Did we mention last time that men with troublesome urinary track symptoms seldom turn out to have prostate cancer? Or at least their symptoms are almost always caused by something else. Prostate cancer is a slow-growing disease that seldom causes any symptoms at all until it is quite advanced and even then it seldom causes the sort of problems you would expect from your prostate. It causes bone pain in other parts of the body -- ribs, spine, hip, etc..

Of course it is possible to have prostate cancer and a prostate infection but, given your tender age you are much less likely to have prostate cancer than just an infection.

Hi there,
No I did not realize that. I have read info on the net for the last week, just trying to get educated. Everything I read about prostate infection is what this points to. I just don't see anything out there on spiking a psa after the symptoms have been better for a few months. I had a couple days in early Dec of slower urine but no issues now.
I'm sorry if I sound redundant, I'm just trying to rest my mind a little. I hope you understand.
Posted 1/23/2016 1:34 AM (GMT 0)
tim,
This kind of "redundant" questions with no satisfaction from the answers is a symptom of your anxiety. I hope you will take seriously my previous suggestion and get help for it. That would be a much better use of your time than lurking on message boards and ignoring the answers you get.

- Allen
Posted 1/23/2016 1:40 AM (GMT 0)
Yes you are right Allen. I'm sorry. I wish everyone speed in their healing.
Posted 1/23/2016 4:12 AM (GMT 0)
What Allen said. Go see the Doc, find out what's wrong, then IF, and it's a great big giant freaking IF, there is something to worry about, worry about it then.

I'm on my 3rd "cancer scare", one thing I have learned is do not worry about anything until you know EXACTLY what it is you have to worry about. Any other worrying is a giant waste of energy.
Posted 1/23/2016 9:52 AM (GMT 0)

Mark Twain said...
"I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened."
We walk around all our lives thinking about things that will never happen. We worry, dread, and fear what hasn’t happened and what probably never will.
Our minds are out of control. Our heads are filled with negative thoughts that have no bearing in reality, even if we think they do.

Posted 1/23/2016 11:38 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you Allen. I am sorry you have had those experiences. I pray everything goes well for you and the others in this forum. It is a relief to be able to talk with someone about it.
Posted 1/23/2016 2:47 PM (GMT 0)
Tim, I'd say that self-diagnosis is almost always a bad idea. There are urinary tract infections that can have extremely serious consequences if left to take their course. Get yourself to a competent urologist and get treated. And, no hanky-panky until it clears up. You don't want to infect your partner.
Posted 1/23/2016 5:47 PM (GMT 0)

halbert said...
Tim, I'd say that self-diagnosis is almost always a bad idea. There are urinary tract infections that can have extremely serious consequences if left to take their course. Get yourself to a competent urologist and get treated. And, no hanky-panky until it clears up. You don't want to infect your partner.


Thank you for the advice. I will be seeing the urologist on Tues. It is definitely something new for me. I hope all the worry is for nothing.
Posted 1/23/2016 11:30 PM (GMT 0)
Hey tim....yes, in my 40's I can remember having to get up many times during the night to go to the bathroom. There were a couple of those episodes, and as best as I remember. ..they'd last a week or two.
Posted 1/23/2016 11:55 PM (GMT 0)
Island Time,,, did you have episodes of infection also? I see you had treatment for... I hope you are doing good.
Posted 1/24/2016 1:14 AM (GMT 0)
According to my physician...yes. As well as prostatitus.

Tim...I know how worried you are. No one here (including you) can diagnosis you. The odds of your having prostate cancer at you age are low. Can it happen? If course. Is it probable? Nope.

None of this is going to make you feel better, no matter what you hear, except for a few minutes. Then it'll be off to the races again. (Ask me how I know).

I can tell you a few facts. 1) The odds of your having prostate cancer are low. 2) Even if you beat the odds and do have it? You will handle it. And once you do, you'll treat it (if it even needs treating, which is also a big if) and there will come a time when you have more to worry about than having had prostate cancer. Take it from me buddy. :-)

You're going to be alright. We're with ya man.

Let us know what the doc says Tuesday.
Posted 1/24/2016 1:50 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you my friend. I will take your advice. As Allen has stated, I do believe my anxiety is taking over. I will continue to listen to others that have been through this process. The mind really is hard to tame. Thank you again. I appreciate everyone's feedback more than you know.
Tim
Posted 1/24/2016 5:28 AM (GMT 0)
Tim, as i mentioned in the other thread, i am a poster boy for high anxiety over PSA and Prostate Cancer. I addressed the issue by seeing a professional. After a few weeks or months of us meeting and talking, A few things he said to me were helfpul, and might be things for you to think about, as you go through the important process of getting to the bottom of your physical problem, which is likely to NOT be cancer....

What is the specific benefit you think you get from worrying about what might happen?
Do you think that by worrying, then if something did happen that was bad, you would handle it more easily, be more prepared for bad news?
What if you did get bad news? Isn't it likely, that as tough a pill as it might be to swallow, you'll handle it? And won't die from it?
What value is there in wasting precious moments of life worrying about something that might not happen?

Allen is right, consider mindfullness training. If you have a smartphone, download an app called Headspace. It will teach you to meditate, live in the moment, its relaxing.
Try to deal with things as they come. Doing otherwise won't help, or change anything.
I know its easier to say. I still get crazy at certain times, especially leading up to PSA tests. But i've learned to handle it. It takes work. Focus. But you have to do it, this is no way to live, being anxious all the time.
Posted 1/24/2016 9:02 AM (GMT 0)

Pratoman said...
Tim, as i mentioned in the other thread, i am a poster boy for high anxiety over PSA and Prostate Cancer. I addressed the issue by seeing a professional. After a few weeks or months of us meeting and talking, A few things he said to me were helfpul, and might be things for you to think about, as you go through the important process of getting to the bottom of your physical problem, which is likely to NOT be cancer....

What is the specific benefit you think you get from worrying about what might happen?
Do you think that by worrying, then if something did happen that was bad, you would handle it more easily, be more prepared for bad news?
What if you did get bad news? Isn't it likely, that as tough a pill as it might be to swallow, you'll handle it? And won't die from it?
What value is there in wasting precious moments of life worrying about something that might not happen?

Allen is right, consider mindfullness training. If you have a smartphone, download an app called Headspace. It will teach you to meditate, live in the moment, its relaxing.
Try to deal with things as they come. Doing otherwise won't help, or change anything.
I know its easier to say. I still get crazy at certain times, especially leading up to PSA tests. But i've learned to handle it. It takes work. Focus. But you have to do it, this is no way to live, being anxious all the time.

Thank you for the reply. I will do what you are saying. It's 4am and here I am on my phone. I do need some help. I'm sorry to sound foolish,, it just feels like the world is closing in on me at times.
Thank you for listening.
Tim
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