Pot use study

Study on pot use for those inclined to use it to relieve PCa issues

www.kumc.edu/news-listing-page/marijuana-use-may-lead-to-stroke-and-disability.html

Besides..weed relieves almost anything. You still have pain and discomfort, you just don't give a s..t. :)

The link may or may not be silly...but there is value in the posting...as well as sheep guys...I saw no naivety or ignorance in the post...a whimsical quip...mostly...so we all don't take ourself to seriously...

That makes sense to me...your right...the comments...not the people...nuanced...but none the less True...

Now Mr Moderator, please feel free to lock this thread or delete my comment.



OK. Jim

Post Edited By Moderator (Tudpock18) : 8/10/2016 12:52:30 PM (GMT-6)

BTW, Jim/Tudpock, it is appreciated—particularly now that most states (more than half) have legalized some form of cannabis—that some discourse on the topic is more leniently viewed here at HW/PC, thereby allowing the forum to keep up with the times...


Knowing that we have members here at HW/PC who are patients who have suffered from the horrific side-effects of chemo and are using cannabis, and having witnessed my spouse suffer through similar late-stage cancer/chemo effects, I don't take this topic light-heartedly.

I did think it was goofy to start a thread at a cancer support site with a study about a possible link of strokes with recreational marijuana use among younger adults with high overall illicit drug usage rates...and especially to infer it was relevant/important/valuable to those at this site using cannabis to relieve chemo effects. The inference in the OP seemed, to me, to be, "you better think twice..."

Actually, I thought it was worse than just "goofy," but my intent was to attack the notion that it was relevant at this site...and not to attack the person who posted it. I think it was relevant like a flea on an elephant is relevant, and ultimately it was an insult to chemo sufferers. I offer my apology if fellow members interpreted my original posts as a personal attack. I'm glad that I had the opportunity to go back and clean-up what I originally wrote. Thanks, again, Jim/Tudpock for the tolerance and wise restraint you showed by not locking the thread.

A more appropriate link to post at this site might be one like this Newsweek article, titled "MARIJUANA IS A WONDER DRUG WHEN IT COMES TO THE HORRORS OF CHEMO, which can be found here:
www.newsweek.com/2015/07/31/keep-toke-alive-356032.html

alephnull, Your insights and thoughts are just a valid and those of anyone else. Don't let people who cannot respectfully disagree without name-calling bother your. As my mother used to say, consider the source and forget about it.

Donna.

I'm not taking sides. I was gonna post a long position piece on why I find value in mj as a therapy, but I have been feeling "off" most of the day, even though I walked 4 miles this am, did grocery shopping and cleaned kitchen, I spent about 3 hrs "napping"- no drive to engage, slow in movement- where is my mojo? I dunno, it has been just over a week since my last chemo- seems to be taking longer to get back to normal (find my mojo) than the previous cycles. I even had to force myself to get out of bed to consider using cannabis.

So I took a toke.
Found my mojo.
Decided not to do that.
Gonna go play my guitar.
This is only my datapoint.
I will not discuss it.
But first, I wanna say...

All of us suffer increasing sensory deficits as we age. Those of us with chronic disease often carry a heavier burden at an earlier age. We all lose it at some level as we age.

One of the effects of Cannabis is how it can enhance the senses. This enhancement of senses makes food taste better, music more intimate, touch more electric, and it can help you to feel better, even more energetic in some cases.

My life is harder because I have PCa. My life is easier because I live in CO.

I love you both
be well

rrf

Most good brands of Scotch should have a similar effect...

Ziggy9, thanks for the comment.

I'm going to plead with you—and possible others who may wish to chime in either to echo or oppose your comments—to tread carefully in this thread.

Ziggy, you've been a member here longer than I have, and so you've undoubtedly seen how earlier threads on the topic of mj have been quickly cut-off without discussion...right? I do believe that the moderators are giving additional leniency here, and more than they have in the past, due to the changes in social norms. And I credit them for that.

But we should still, and I would ask this of you and others to follow, keep the discussion within the bounds of how it affects men with prostate cancer.

Thanks for your understanding and support!


added later as an edit:
The specific HW/PC Rule is worded this way: "Discussion of medical marijuana is allowed as long as discussions have a medical focus."

Post Edited (JackH) : 8/12/2016 12:02:33 PM (GMT-6)

JackH said...
Ziggy9, thanks for the comment.

I'm going to plead with you—and possible others who may wish to chime in either to echo or oppose your comments—to tread carefully in this thread.

Ziggy, you've been a member here longer than I have, and so you've undoubtedly seen how earlier threads on the topic of mj have been quickly cut-off without discussion...right? I do believe that the moderators are giving additional leniency here, and more than they have in the past, due to the changes in social norms. And I credit them for that.

But we should still, and I would ask this of you and others to follow, keep the discussion within the bounds of how it affects men with prostate cancer.

Thanks for your understanding and support!

True in the past under orders from this sites owners any pot threads or posts were deleted upon sight. Mine being a few of them. But common sense has risen it ugly head here recently acknowledgingly the rising tide of medical use in many states and free full legal use in 4 others. As a resident of one of the free states I find it absurd a post I can freely make locally can be questioned or asked to be modified because some geographical areas in my country too remain in the dark ages. That stated I have no more to say on this subject for now. Except that marijuana can be used to assist those with PCa and other diseases. According to you people talking about other ailments such as heart disease should have posts banned. We are here true for PCa but also for our shared mortality and human guidance be it on another hospital floor at times..

"I've seen fire and I've seen rain, I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end, I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend"
So much for the musical interlude.
I posted the original post for informational purposes only, although some took it differently.
I've been high and I've been drunk, I like being drunk more than high.
I have advanced prostate cancer and am incurable. I have NOT had chemo.
If my HT ever stops working and I go on chemo, I'll probably try anything legal, maybe move to Colorado.

InTheShop, I was not offended or hurt by your remarks.

I think I understood what you meant, peace to you brother, peace. A little levity usually does some good. It did in my case.

I truly do hope all on this forum, and I do mean ALL do find Peace.

Thank you Donna for giving me perspective.

JackH said...

InTheShop said...
Most good brands of Scotch should have a similar effect...

Can you understand, just for a moment InTheShop, how that is insensitive and terribly insulting to our advanced-case HW/PC members who are suffering from the horrors of Chemotherapy -- specifically from nausea, vomiting, anxiety, pain and loss of appetite.

You may think it's funny. "Why not just take a shot of whiskey to solve all your advanced cancer/chemo symptoms?" Go to the infusion room lobby of the local cancer center and suggest that. haha...that'd be friggin' hilarious.

Just think about it.

Nailed it.