A Diet For Prostate Cancer

What works for cashless is great that it works for cashless. Whether it is the stringent diet that actually helps or if he just has the feeling of being on control of something. I eat what works for me. It's not because I love these foods, it's because I dislike them the least. If I didn't have to eat to stay alive, I probably would never get around to eating.

I love the Woody Allen movie "Sleeper", in which he ran a health foods store, was put into suspended animation and woke up decades later. Everything he knew was wrong. "It's tobacco... best thing in the world for you".

I've known too many men who died from massive heart attacks after depriving themselves of foods that made them happy and instead ate what nutritionists of their day told them to eat... stuff like margarine. Yuk.

To all the anti-diet folks.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do. I'm not in the "sales"
business. I'm reporting my results and trying to help those
who are interested.

Diet is my choice for treatment for my situation (post-surgery,
and post-radiation). My diet has significantly slowed/stopped
PSA rise. All treatments come with side effects, mine included.

Here they are:
Fasting triglycerides/HDL <1.
A1c < 5.
Anti-Alzheimer's.


/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4581900/

Cashless

PDL17 said...
Rob, I hope your A1C is significantly less than 10! It should be around 7 if you are a diabetic being treated and around 5.5 if you are not.

Thanks Paul, I was wrong and had to look it up. Last February it was 5.6.

My apologies if I came off as glib or insensitive, as I realize how important this is for those who are affected.

When I eat it is for the purpose of putting off starvation for one more day, and so I go for the most concentrated sources of glucose and amino acids. For some others it seems to be a sensory or emotional experience.

Post Edited (RobLee) : 7/24/2018 1:05:20 PM (GMT-6)

cashlessclay said...
To all the anti-diet folks.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do. I'm not in the "sales"
business. I'm reporting my results and trying to help those
who are interested.

Diet is my choice for treatment for my situation (post-surgery,
and post-radiation). My diet has significantly slowed/stopped
PSA rise. All treatments come with side effects, mine included.

Here they are:
Fasting triglycerides/HDL <1.
A1c < 5.
Anti-Alzheimer's.


/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4581900/

Cashless

I may not - not yet at least- adopt your diet, but your numbers speak for themselves. You no doubt run a very low average insulin. Insulin will not be stimulating your cancer. All done with diet, no drugs required.

cashlessclay said...
To all the anti-diet folks.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do. I'm not in the "sales"
business. I'm reporting my results and trying to help those
who are interested.

Diet is my choice for treatment for my situation (post-surgery,
and post-radiation). My diet has significantly slowed/stopped
PSA rise. All treatments come with side effects, mine included.

Here they are:
Fasting triglycerides/HDL <1.
A1c < 5.
Anti-Alzheimer's.


/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4581900/

Cashless

I’m always in awe of your success and discipline Cashless, not to mention your detailed posts. While my lifestyle wouldn’t allow such a stringent diet, I have made many improvements to it THANKS to you!

RCS asks: << When I read about your use of steel cut oats, I started thinking.
Have you ever tried oat bran instead of steel cut oats? >>
<< I started on oat bran muffins (with walnuts and raisins) many years ago (20?)
as part of a regime to lower LDL. For me, the regime worked and I have been
on oat bran muffins ever since. I wonder what part of the oat imparts beneficial
effects ..... if any are imparted. >>

I have no data on oat bran. My guess is that you could get it to work.

Oat bran muffins (with walnuts and raisins), however, would be more problematic.

Billybob: . . . concerning walnuts . . . Walnuts are a mainstay in my diet. At least
1/2 cup a day. I would not be concerned with them.

Fiddlecanoe says: << Unfortunately, there will probably never be a test of the
Cashless diet. His theory is that even small amounts of certain foods feed the
cancer, so a good test of the diet requires a large number of people to adhere
strictly to the diet, something that won't happen, because people love eating the
foods he avoids too much. The normal scientific approach would be to test whether
REDUCING certain foods has a beneficial effect. If Cashless is right, that is not a
good test of his theory. >>

You got that right. I do not question the "level of evidence" of studies/trials
concerning food and cancer. I do question their premise/presumption that
"moderate modifications" to diets can result in changes in cancer growth rates.

I believe that to start a thread with . . . "A new randomized clinical trial finally
puts to bed the question . . . " that you need a high level of evidence, but you
also need correct suppositions.

For example, concerning insulin and cancer . . . To imply that insulin may not be
growth factor for PC, because IGF1 inhibitors have consistently failed to show any
benefit in clinical studies, implicitly assumes that IGF1 is the dominant molecular
mechanism underlying the biological actions of insulin in PC. I do not believe
that to be the case. So, I'm not questioning the level of evidence, but rather the
presumptions necessary to come to that conclusion.

www.endocrineconnections.com/content/3/1/24.full

Cashless

walnuts? Always tasted like tree bark to me, but if you like them - enjoy.

Here you can have mine.

Reachout, very good numbers!

Why did you decide to avoid soy?
I found that I needed some soy to make my diet work.
I have also, very recently, found that I need some raspberries
to make my diet work.

Cashless

If diet has an impact on PCa I would presume that soy will protect a man from PCa! In Asia they consume soy foods as part of a regular diet and they have lower PCa incidence than in Europe and US.
This assumption is supported in this article
Soy Consumption and the Risk of Prostate Cancer: An Updated Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

This updated systematic review and meta-analysis provides a thorough evaluation regarding the association between soy food intake and PCa risk. Using the current pool of scientific literature, our results support the existing evidence, which indicates that total soy food intake is associated with a reduced risk of PCa.

trailguy said...
Well,you can read my stats right here in my sig line - no change in the rapid rise of my PSA in the last 2 months. The only dietary changes I have made is to have a peach with my apple in the fruit dish at breakfast and to substitute sirloin steak for the ground sirloin I used to have for Mexican night on Fridays.

I think the steak is what caused my PSA to stay level! - That and the raspberry pie I made yesterday.....try and get that in there now boys and you too may see my results!

or maybe not...

Can you elaborate on "steak caused my PSA to stay level"? Why? (I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious as to your thoughts). Unless you are joking?(raspberry pie?)

Reachout, I used to take pomi t years ago and still my psa continued to rise.
I used to take it once a day. I am thinking of buying it again. What dosage do
You take? I just bought the other powder you told me about( modified fruit pectin) thanks

Reachout,

Concerning soy as part of an anti-PC diet . . . about 5 years ago,
I removed all sources of soy from a diet that was working well.
The soy-free diet crashed, with a PSADT equal to 8.5 months,
or only slightly better than my "No Diet" value of about 7 months.
I then put soy back into the diet and got a PSADT of well over 100
months for a 6 month period. (PSA went from 0.093 to 0.094).

Since then, soy has been a staple in the diet. It does not take
much, but I have it daily. I do not see any dose dependency,
with perhaps one ounce per day being adequate.

If "genistein" is the active ingredient, you may be getting the same
effect from other sources.


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Cashless