Corona vaccine poll

94.5% effective!!

"Moderna, part of the U.S. government's Operation Warp Speed program, expects to produce around 20 million doses of the vaccine for the United States this year, millions of which the company has already made, and is ready to ship if it receives FDA authorization."

https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/moderna-vaccine-effective/2020/11/16/id/997206/

We have gone through 9 months of hell. We are 3-5 months away , not from back to normal, but certainly from seeing the finish line on the horizon. Something to hang onto. We are way more than half way there.
Stay safe, be smart

i'm heartened to see that vaccine makers will be meeting with the biden transition team. meanwhile i think we will soon see an excess of 200k of new cases a day as well as 2k deaths, and how high it goes from there is frightening to contemplate. and i cannot express how angry this makes me:

https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-coronavirus-advisor-calls-101623268.html

Logo, Ed, Djin, just have to weigh in and agree with all you’ve said, 1000%. We can’t relax now. Dummies will be dummies, the rest of us need to remain diligent. The news today, should be more motivation to do so.

Yes. This is great news indeed. Hoping the larger trials go smoothly.

Also, there are 2 more vaccines that are very close to the same point as the two we are looking at:

https://www.biospace.com/article/j-and-j-vaccine-secures-additional-1-billion-in-funding-for-covid-19-vaccine/

The article indicates that J&J has 2 vaccines that are also entering Phase 3 trials. One is a one-shot deal; the other 2 shots.
Exciting.

CAN SOMEONE please make the link clickable?

While I am still concerned that we are ignoring the possibility that the larger Phase 3 trial can reveal some major issues (CAUTIOUSLY optimistic), with at least 4 candidates, we have to be seeing a good outcome!

Right?

Mel

New York state has the most deaths, at 34,000.

Then comes Texas, with 20k, followed by California, with 18k.

Did either New York, or California, have a mask mandate, or enforced quarantines? I know Texas didn't.

As you know, I was in favor of a Chinese-style approach. Absent that, I don't believe anything could've worked in the States. Slovakia took that sort of approach, especially on the mass testing front (they're the largest country so far to have carried out mass testing), and done very well.

"Slovakia is the largest country so far to carry out a nationwide testing program. Those who test positive are required to isolate, while those who are negative can carry on with normal life, with shops, bars and restaurants all remaining open."

More here: https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-11-09/could-slovakia-s-mass-testing-change-europe-s-covid-19-strategy--vfsefnfvk4/index.html

All a moot point soon, as the various vaccines enter into the fray.

Tudpock18 said...
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On the other hand I do think the Op Warp Speed is turning out to be a huge success. Hopefully there will be a smooth handoff between administrations so that the execution is as good as the planning phases.

Jim

On the development side, it appears the "huge" will be warranted.

On the distribution front, we'll see -- hopefully also a big success (although as the P-elect just said a few moments ago, regarding the administration handoff, that it would be a shame to lose a month and a half on vaccine-distribution preparation, as now seems likely).

As far as Covid testing, I think the verdict will be anything from terrible to very poor. A completely botched start (pre Warp Speed, though); long waits for results; we now have many tests that are quite unreliable (false positives and false negatives)--especially for rapid testing. WHO tests were refused; our initial tests were defective; test creation was half-hearted initially and, when available, testing was downplayed; contract-tracing methods left up to individual states (and basically impossible when positivity rates are sky high). IMO much of this can be traced back to a lack of understanding (or perhaps acceptance) that "pandemic" meant us, too.

Regarding therapeutics, let's skip over the hydroxychloroquine chapter. There is serious questioning of the shady process by which remdesivir got its emergency-use approval from the FDA:

The ‘very, very bad look’ of remdesivir, the first FDA-approved COVID-19 drug

Djin

Post Edited (DjinTonic) : 11/16/2020 2:36:26 PM (GMT-7)

DjinTonic said...
On the distribution front, we'll see...

They've been ready re: distribution, for some time now: General Perna, a United States Army four-star general now serving as the chief operating officer of Operation Warp Speed: “Through the whole-of-America approach, we have leveraged the best of nation in federal government, local, states, industry, and academia to expand the capacity and capability to achieve our mission. . . We have capitalized on the best contracting, logistics, and planning experts available to synchronize and integrate all phases of the operation, from development of the vaccine, manufacturing of the vaccine, and finally distribution of the vaccine. Six months ago, the capacity did not exist in our nation’s pharmaceutical production base. We went to work building brick and mortar manufacturing facilities, bringing in the right specialized machinery, and prioritizing supply-chain materials through the Defense Production Act. Today, we expect to have tens of millions of doses immediately following EUA [Emergency Use Authorization], and we will distribute them as soon as the FDA applies the EUA. We will do that within 24 hours of the EUA. We are harnessing the strength of commercial industry and the existing vaccine delivery capabilities and infrastructure. Our nation deserves this. Vaccines will be allocated pro rata by population so that we ensure fair and equitable across...I will end where I started: This is about saving lives, the lives of the great American people. And we will not rest until we are successful and that we have irreversible momentum to returning our nation back to normal.”

Im curious why no one on either side of the media and political aisle have put the lates surge square on recent election...masks Yeh...here and there rarely any distance,,,this in spite of all the posturing from...again :both sides now as here comes the clowns as they are already here...umm that would be us...the back side of "they/them...
if so I guess there were some noise canceling vibes on the bouncing bubbles...what ever the frack that means...lol

I saw a local friend today walking his dog and stopped for a socially distanced chat through the rolled down window of my truck. My friend had a bone marrow transplant three years ago for lymphoma. He is doing very well and seems well along the way to having developed a new immune system. But I teased him that with his medical history he will probably be first in line for one of the new vaccines and we'd all be watching to see if he grew gills or a third eye. He thinks gills might be fun.
Jim

I'm curious about the reasoning behind the unequivocal "No" votes in the poll. I'm wondering if they have to do with vaccinations in general or specifically with Covid-19 vaccines (or their approval process) in particular.

Djin